CCE 2.70 questions.

[nimrodim]

I'm trying the new trial of cce 2.70.01.05,
I have a few question after reading through the manual:
From the manual: " If the total number of encoded frames is a multiple of 4, the play back time of the source and the output will be same. However,if it cannot be divided by 4, the gap of the play back time will be caused between the source and the output. And how a remainder when devided by 4 will make a number of frames is different between 2:3 and 3:2. (See the table below.) So it will be better to alternate 2:3 and 3:2 patterns if you encode the source devided into multiple streams."
http://xs12.xs.to/pics/05032/T1.jpg

I really don't understand when to set a pulldown to 2:3 or 3:2 - could somebody explain this to me.

Another thing which caught my eye in the guide about GOP's: "Generally, M=3, N/M=5 is used for NTSC DVD, M=3, N/M=4 for PAL DVD." - what do you think of this - i have always used M=3, N/M=4 for PAL AND NTSC - is this a new recommendation...?

As this version accepts avisynth files and saves progect files - what use would there be for using "ECL CCE" with it? Does ECL work with this version of CCE?

Another question - i seem to be getting incredible speeds - like over 10 at times for part of the encoding - could this be true on my Intel P4 3.45GHZ(Overclocked)? - and the result seems fine.

I think a new guide to CCE on the site is needed.

[kolak]

Generally, M=3, N/M=5 is used for NTSC DVD, M=3, N/M=4
for PAL DVD, but when you create a stream for DVD with applying inverse 3:2 pulldown, M=3, N/M=4 should be set.
This info was taken from CCE guide and I think that are good settings.
About your speed I wouldn't be sure, because I read that on 2xXenon 3.2GHz CCE 2.70 is about 5 times faster then realtime.

[Nocturno]

i have got a question too,

when i encode pal sources they all come out looking interlaced?

i've been experimenting with settings but i can't quite put my finger on it.

setting progressive and alternate scan seemed to fix it, but it doesn't look as sharp as it should imho

in CCE 2.50 i never set the progressive or alternate scan settings and my pal sources always came out fine?

[Nocturno]

oh my sources are non-interlaced xvid's

[kolak]

I have the same problem and I almost never set progressive flag.
One more thing: how I know when you use progressive source you should use Zigzag not Alternate mode.

You should look here:
"Encoding progressive interlaced" thread posted by Master Yoda or better read all about CCE on doom9 forum:)

[Nocturno]

i think i found it.. 24p to 60I was set to 1 in my ecl file
strange it would interlace 25fps source that way?

[hendrix]

Originally posted by nimrodim
I really don't understand when to set a pulldown to 2:3 or 3:2 - could somebody explain this to me.
video from film used to be 3:2 pulldowned - it's an archaic method for Video-to-Film transfers. 2:3 pulldown is now performed - although the term "3:2 pulldown" still used but in reality 2:3 pulldown is used. so when you hear someone saying they're performing a 2:3 pulldown (although they're correct) the term is really "3:2 pulldown".