Made a donation.... now what?

[Morien]

Hello,

I've made a donation, now what do I do?
I'm looking to get the latest VIP versions, how does this work?

Thanks
Morien

[Trahald]

jdobbs has to manually verify it. then i believe he puts you in an automatic mailing system at that point. anyways, you have to give it more time.. please pm jdobbs directly (in the future) and donot create a new thread.. thank you.. <edit> oh and provide an email address ;)

[Morien]

My apologies. Thankyou for the reply.

[Socio]

He is pretty fast, mine showed up about 15 minutes after my donation.

[jdobbs]

It all depends whether I'm home. I'm not right now. I usually get to them at about 5:00pm Eastern.

[M7S]

I must ask of pure interest of people set of thinking (and spending money)... Has there been a big increase in the number of donators since you started with the vipversions? Is two weeks waiting something that people willing to pay for to get rid of?

Regards,
M7S

[ntr]

Its not the waiting being a donator personally, I donated purely to support jdobbs , the fact i get releases a couple of weeks prior to going public well thats just a bonus. This great app in my opinion merits a donation from everyone just to show support for all jbobbs hard work and efforts.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by M7S
I must ask of pure interest of people set of thinking (and spending money)... Has there been a big increase in the number of donators since you started with the vipversions? Is two weeks waiting something that people willing to pay for to get rid of?

Regards,
M7S I would hope that the donation is more associated with some level of appreciation for the hundreds of hours I've spent on this software.

[M7S]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I would hope that the donation is more associated with some level of appreciation for the hundreds of hours I've spent on this software.
Yes, I understand that and hopes that it would be that way. And that's what I wanted to know: What does the statistics say? Has there been a increase in donators since the vipversion? Then the two weeks probably matters (if your program hasn't become much better or gotten a bigger userbase lately, ofcource).

It's none of my business how much donators you gotten, so if you don't want to tell, I won't bother you more. If you got more donators lately you probably deserve it, whatever the reason is.

I should shut up now, since I haven't donated myself (but on the other hand I haven't made a succesful rebuild yet since I'm new to it and tried to use quenc 0.59... and I'm a poor student who doesn't even have a paypal account ;)).

Reagrds,
M7S

[NaN]

Cmon! Sure lots of people started donating when the VIP-versions started! It's not great fun to know that the recent version supports e.g. multiangle, you would need it now, but get it in a month?

The same now for cce sp 2.70.

Sure people donate. Some use OPV just to experience that v70 oversizes (was fixed in v71), but they don't have access to the fixed version.

I do know that many feel frustrated, but don't want to express their opinion since jdobbs is the maintainer of his rebuilder and nobody wants to make him angry.

Cheers, NaN

[f@chance]

It never seizes to amaze me how quickly people can spend $10 on junk food at MacDs which is gone in an hour with bad health results, but are not willing to contribute to the hard work of an ISV that is with you permanently. The VIP realease is a welcome token of appreciation but because DR is the defacto standard for backing up DVDs and as such I financially support it to make sure the product is maintaned.

[NaN]

Sure most think so. But you forget that there are so many authors! Just to recall what you need to get the Rebuilder working:

-doom9 (to get it of course)
-avisynth
-Donald Grafts (neuron2) dgmpgdec.dll/decomb-avisynth plugin
-Nics Quenc
-RB for eclcce
-Rockas for his skins

I'm sure these would be happy to get some donation too, wouldn't they?

However, it's better to stop the discussion about donations since it's not going to get anywhere.

Cheers, NaN

[Rockas]

@NaN
As far as I'm concern you don't need to donate me anything :)
I'm just doing it to help.

Keep the donations to all the other guys you mention... they really deserve it... all of them... if I could I would give the a million €uros each.

Have you guys ever took a good thinking about the work they are giving away for free?

[geffroman]

People that do not donate have a million reasons... and OH BOY get em pissed and they come flying out of the wood work to voice all of them... can't ever win that argument... sad really...

[NaN]

People that do not donate have a million reasons... and OH BOY get em pissed and they come flying out of the wood work to voice all of them... can't ever win that argument... sad really...

Yesterday I donated to an organisation helping the 3rd world - and no, not because it's in the media, because it isn't. Actually africa seems to be completly forgotten here in europe.

So your small minded scheme doesn't fit.

Geffroman, I've always respected you, but if I have to read more intolerant and ignorant statements of you, I will loose this respect completely.

Cheers, NaN

[winny]

It's a question of morals. jdobbs has generously allowed the use of his program without forcing registration on people.

Sadly there are those happy to reap the benefit of someone's hard work without thanks. While there may be a few genuine reasons for not contributing, on the whole its pretty shameful.

$10, the price of two beers if you're lucky. Remember how much harder CCE was before this, and give him some support.

Alternatively try developing your own solution with the "free" tools at your disposal and share it with everyone. See how long that's acceptable to you.

[winny]

Oh, and donating to third world charities doesn't give anyone a moral high ground here. I'm sure we all do what we can for various good causes.

This is about showing your appreciation for countless hours of work, don't confuse the issue.

[NaN]

No it doesn't give me a better standing. But fanatics shouldn't have too.

But I simply cannot read those double moral postings. Doom9 got about 200 donations last year! Cmon! Thats nothing! Thousands of guests and members are visiting and benefiting from his site. But there are always some that post how little it is to donate.

I would be interested how many donated to the others mentioned above! Without their tools nobody could use the rebuilder.

Besides I do support jdobbs as I can; 2 tiny bug reports (1 was ignored, 1 wasn't tracked down).

See it as you wish, but the original question was, wether people started donating when he began to release his VIP-versions. And I say yes. And I already said why. Not more, not less.

However we're quite offtopic now.

Cheers, NaN

[winny]

Without rebuilder the other tools mentioned above would be a mystery to me, and I'm grateful for jdobbs' effort in bringing them into a simple project.

Fair point about Doom9. For those that haven't taken the time to hit the paypal button, imagine what you would do if the authors thought they were being taken for granted and walked away from it. What would you do then?

I really hope the VIP idea is working. If thats the incentive people need, so be it.

[geffroman]

Originally posted by NaN
Yesterday I donated to an organisation helping the 3rd world - So your small minded scheme doesn't fit.

Cheers, NaN Thanks for making my point!

[jdobbs]

I do know that many feel frustrated, but don't want to express their opinion since jdobbs is the maintainer of his rebuilder and nobody wants to make him angry. Besides I do support jdobbs as I can; 2 tiny bug reports (1 was ignored, 1 wasn't tracked down).

@NaN

If you're so unhappy... why don't you use something else? You obviously haven't donated... Do you really think it would break my heart for you to switch to some other method.

The point I'm making is: You use it. Fine. If you don't donate, that's up to you. But you also have no right to be critical of anything I do, or how I decide to distribute. You're getting my professional services for free... and have the unmitigated gall to complain about it???

Maybe you wouldn't mind coming over to my house and building some new kitchen cabinets for me for free? I'd love to watch you and complain about how you do it...

You have the option to use it for free. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Understand my point?

[dragongodz]

jdobbs - why not just close these threads as soon as they start going this way ? i mean on one side you have people bitching about getting something for free and having to wait a little while for the latest if they dont donate, on the other people who take some moral high ground ,since they did donate, and feel free to insult(not just politly encourage) other users(geffromans thread in the general section about donating is a good example). both camps should learn to give it a rest.

[jdobbs]

You're right. It does always seem to go sour... done.