Encoding with Angles

[robert980]

Hi,

I have a big prob with the reencoding of a shortly released Making-pf-DVD which contains angles in some VOBs.

The rebuilder works in its usual way till the end.
After completing the video_ts folder is very much undersized.
After this I noticed that some VOBs and there IFO and BUPs are missing. Then I noticed, that this VOBs contain angles :(
When I copy the angles-VOBs with there IFOs and BUPs into the reencoded video_ts folder, ist is very much oversized.

So I thought about making i little trick:
I used the RB-Optimizer and changed all bitrates less the percently oversize capacity, so in case we have 10 % too much material with the incopied not-reencoded angleVOBs, and the first to reencode vob has 2000 kbit, I changed to 1800 kbit and so on with all files.
I thougt this would be the only way to have all of the material and perfect sized to fit a dvd.
It's a pity, but a tried now 8 times to do this job and it fails every time. The DVD gets to big.

What can I do to come to the needed result?
Does rebuilder generally have problems with angles-VOBs?

I gave dvdshrink I try and it handles it the same way, no transcoding with anglesfiles. Too bad.

Is there no way to do this, or does a trick exist to do?

thank you all
BR
rob

[pg55555]

I do not understand you saying Shrink does not work on multiangle. It works perfectly.

Regarding your problem, my method would be to Shrink the RB output.

[jdobbs]

Check your REBUILDER.INI file and make sure you don't have this line inserted:

ILVU_Extract=1

It was implemented for experimental use and can have some strange affects if left inserted when you are trying to back up an ILVU movie.

[robert980]

I think thats not the reason, why it don't work, beacause look by yourselves:

[Paths]
CCENEW=E:\TOOLS\MPGencoder\CCE2670027\EclCCE.exe
REJIG=E:\TOOLS\MPGencoder\ReJig\ReJig.exe
QuEnc=E:\TOOLS\MPGencoder\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
MPEG2DEC=E:\TOOLS\dvdrb\dgmpgdec1012a\DGDecode.dll
DECOMB=E:\TOOLS\AviSynth\plugins\InverseTelecine\Decomb.dll
Source=J:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=F:\NEUER ORDNER\
Output=F:\NEUER ORDNER\
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
EncoderMinimized=1
CCE=1
OneClick=0
Mode=1
NoWarn=1
idct7Opt=0
LogStatus=1
BackColor=12632256
Completed=44
HalfExtras=0
Skin=Rockas Original
AdditionalOutput=0
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=3
OPV=0
min_bitrate=1000
max_bitrate=7000
[Audio]
Selected=111111111

thats my rebuilder.ini - I think theres everything like it should be.

Have you got another idea? THX
BR
rob

[blueboyec]

Jobbs,

Does the this (ILVU_Extract=1) mean you are thinking about giving RB the ability to remove angles in the future. Most of the time I think angles just waste space.

blueboy

[jdobbs]

Actually that setting is for me in testing. I'm working on code to reencode angles. That setting causes the individual angles to be extracted separately -- but it also causes information to not be encoded correctly right now... just a warning to any who want to play with it.

[Corrected] I changed the word "extras" to "angles" in the first sentence... don't know what I was thinking when I typed it.

[robert980]

I try this now with version 0.70 again, perhaps I have more luck now :) ...will give my statement soon.

[robert980]

It worked :)
Rebuilder finished with a complete size of 4.23 GB, I copied manually the missing vts6_1 into it and came to 4,34 GB. I wonder only that rebuilder can't copy the angled file by itself.

Here the logfile if it is interesting:
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- VTS_04: 1.775.472 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
- PREPARE aborted.
- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
- Detected ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING on source.
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-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 1.142.857 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
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- VTS_03: 508.652 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
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-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
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-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 4.659 frames.
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- VTS_06: 54.923 sectors.
-- ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 5.180 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 684.844 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 66.369 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 627.316 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 62.969 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_09: 605.333 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 60.534 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 49,1%
- Overall Bitrate : 1.868Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.621.074KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 2.504/410/1.868 Kbs
[16:51:40] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes.
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- VTS_01: 383.521 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 38.706 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_02: 1.142.857 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 109.885 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
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-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
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-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
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-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 49,1%
- Overall Bitrate : 1.868Kbs
- Space for Video : 3.621.074KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 2.504/410/1.868 Kbs
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