The Way Things Look

[State of Mind]

Ok, I don't know how to explain this but I'll do my best...
You know when you hook your DVC up to your TV and you watch it. The "way things move" on the screen. It's "smooth" and "lifelike". Framerate? Like watching Home Improvement and then watching Seinfeld. The framerate or whatever (argh) rate of motion is different. Does ANYONE get me?
If so, is there a way to create a DVD from DV and have the video on the DVD move the same way as things move on the camcorder?

[stickboy]

Originally posted by State of Mind
Like watching Home Improvement and then watching Seinfeld. The framerate or whatever (argh) rate of motion is different.Possibly one is NTSC video (59.94 fields/s) and the other one is telecined from film (24 frames/s -> 59.94 fields/s). I've never looked closely at either so I have no idea.If so, is there a way to create a DVD from DV and have the video on the DVD move the same way as things move on the camcorder?Wait, so which is it you want? The (NTSC?) DV-look or the movie-look? If you want the the DV look, then you shouldn't need to do anything; the frame-rate should be 59.94 fields/s throughout. Is this not the case?

[State of Mind]

Ah, someone understands, lol. Fields, huh? I know a little bit about fields from www.100fps.com but haven't been to that website in ages. Anyway, I don't have a problem with the "movie look", but I think keeping the DV look would be better for me. And about the framerate, I'm always encoded with 29.97 fps. Hmm, I just has a thought about what going from 29.97 fps to 59.94 fps would do for filesize of my DVDs? Also, I don't think I've ever seen the option in TMPGEnc to encode at that rate, either.

[Mug Funky]

simple method: preserve the interlace structure all through your filter-chain (don't vertically resize for instance, or field-separate your video before doing any spatial filters - more on this in this forum), and encode interlaced. then when you play back on your TV (and if the field-order is right), you will get what you got on the camcorder.

i wasn't aware that home-improvement was shot on video. never saw it enough (and last time i saw it i was so young i didn't really pay attention to motion).

[State of Mind]

Well, the "camera mode" is how Home Improvement does look, as well as soap operas, as opposed to Seinfeld, Friends, That 70's Show, Etc.
Anyway, thanks for the tips, I'll remember not to do those sorts of things and hopefully I will end up with video that maintains the "DV look".

[stickboy]

Originally posted by State of Mind
Anyway, I don't have a problem with the "movie look", but I think keeping the DV look would be better for me.Well, to each his own...Hmm, I just has a thought about what going from 29.97 fps to 59.94 fps would do for filesize of my DVDs?They're the same thing. 29.97 (interlaced) frames/s = 59.94 fields/s.
Also, I don't think I've ever seen the option in TMPGEnc to encode at that rate, either.As Mug Funky said, just make sure you encode as interlaced (and be sure to set the field-order correctly... bottom-field first for DV).

[Leo 69]

I looked for almost the same feature here but still no wise solution to it :( http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=85091
Maybe someone will make a plugin which would use the GPU :D to preserve this, sometimes VERY useful effect?

Cheers