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DeathTheSheep
16th December 2004, 05:42
I know I can encode NeroDigital AVC stuff. I've done it, and written to AVI, and it plays successfully. You just can't split pre-made stuff.

Well, I'm fine encoding outside of NeroDigital--rename GraphEdit to "Recode.exe", then use "Nero Digital AVC Enc" selected from the [Video Compressors] subheading, connect 'em up... and... AND... it works...

But the problem here is, I have no control over the encoder settings. Right-clicking the filter and selecting show properties DOESNT WORK. I was told once that NeroDigital AVC uses Ateme's system of control (via a written encode.log file). Is this right? How do you control the AVC enc.?! All it does is output the file in slightly worse quality with quick encoding...

Any solution? Any way to modify Nero Digital AVC Enc filter? Or to write its log? Thanks.

Selur
16th December 2004, 07:39
strange over here I can't even insert the "Nero Digital AVC Enc" into a graph no matter if I rename graphedit.exe to Recode.exe or not,...

babayaga
16th December 2004, 10:02
Originally posted by DeathTheSheep
I know I can encode NeroDigital AVC stuff. I've done it, and written to AVI, and it plays successfully. You just can't split pre-made stuff.
To be able to split the AVI file, you need to put the configuration (SPS/PPS) in front of very IDR in the AVI file. Fortunately, Recode generates IDR :)


Originally posted by DeathTheSheep
Or to write its log?
Just for this part of your question : writting/modifying the log file by hand is not a very good idea since the log config is partially overriden by Recode at the begining of the second pass.

DeathTheSheep
16th December 2004, 21:59
@Selur (I think you are also in the 3ivx forum talking to me about the same thing !! ;-) ):
To insert, you have to select the filter from the "Video Compressors" heading. It will NOT insert from the "directshow" heading...



So, basically, there is no way to encode without Nero Recode there to split stuff? Well, what about encoding from scratch?

Let's say I have an AVI. I split it. I send the video stream over to the Nero Digital AVC Enc, I parse it to AVC, I stick it in an AVI with file writer.

http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=582254

And then 3ivx split, mux to avi, voila. But how do you change the settings of the Nero Enc?

[Edit, ] uh, my image won't display... Does the upload feature work at all, or does it take a while for the pic to appear?

Selur
17th December 2004, 08:40
1. a upload has to be authorised by a mod :)
2. yup i'm a mod over at the 3ivx forum
(also one over at german.doom9 and the offical german dvdtoogm board *gig*)
3. okay, if one renames graphedit.exe to recode.exe AND selects the filter from the 'Video Compressors' subtree one can insert it.
=> will play with this at the weekend

Cu Selur

Ps.: as splitter you could also try the one from moonlight,... ;)

DeathTheSheep
17th December 2004, 23:17
Moonlight? Man, I went to their site... I've never seen anything more confusing in my whole, entire life.

Yeah, I've heard Moonlight was working on a good AVC splitter and parser.
Uh, where exactly can you get this moonlight splitter?

Selur
17th December 2004, 23:58
this might help:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84514

DeathTheSheep
18th December 2004, 06:48
Sweet, this may be just the answer! But, uh, one tiny little problem: how do you install this .ax filter? I downloaded it, but now what?

APF_Gandalf
18th December 2004, 22:22
start -->> run -->>
regsvr32.exe MP4Demux.ax

DeathTheSheep
21st December 2004, 00:52
Awesome. It works well! For playing the file, that is. But it won't connect to AVI mux... Is there something I'm missing in between?

Cheers.