DvdRebuilder and LOTR.

[xebu]

I have been trying to pack my LOTR:FOTR:EE (Fellowhip extended) to fit dvd-r but dvd rebuilder won't do it :(
When it's about packing movie seqments or something like that CCE packs whole 8GB movie in 4 minutes on 8 pass. What must i do that it packs my movie right. And then in authoring rebuilder makes error and shuts down.

[jptheripper]

sound like you dont have rebuilder installed right.

In the working project folder open one of the .avs files with media player, if its black with red lines you have a problem.

Read the stickies at the top to fix

[xebu]

Nope. I opened one AVS with Windows Media Player and it played fine. What i have to do next?

[jptheripper]

what version of cce are you using?

you probably dont have ecl set up right.

If you have a version of cce that requires ecl support (check faq) you need to point the path to cce to eclcce.exe, and then double click eclcce.exe and point it to cce.exe

[xebu]

now it works fine :P
And i didn't do anything to rebuilder or cce. Probably windows messed it up.

[TheSeeker]

Oh and just FYI. Here is a thread where extensive testing on the benefits of doing alot of passes in CCE was done. It was found tentatively that anything more than 1+1 or 1+2 is really not doing much.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86038

Check it out for yourself and make up your mind. But I think you may find that doing 1+7 passes doesnt really give you any better quality than say 1+2 or 1+3.

[dannyv]

Originally posted by TheSeeker

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86038

Check it out for yourself and make up your mind. But I think you may find that doing 1+7 passes doesnt really give you any better quality than say 1+2 or 1+3.

@the seeker

I started to read that thread but got a little crosseyed from such a long thread. I found it very intresting that doing 3 seperate single pass vbr's would be the same thing as doing a 1+2. I was also doing 4 passes but now this could be overkill and you shouldn't need to do more then a 1+2 because anything more doesn't improve quality much.

TheSeeker would you agree with my conclusion.

[TheSeeker]

I think just from observing the results of the testing done with the SSIM tool. (Which if your not aware tests the encoded video streams similarity to the original stream.) I would have to say yes 1+2 is fine for any material. However some things need to be taken into account. Like the fact that its entirely possible for a video stream to be farther from the original in terms of SSIM measurements and still look better to the human eye than the video stream that is supposedly closer to the original. The most common example of this would be when certain low bitrate quanti matrices are used. They tend to greatly skew the video stream away from the original but not necessarily in a bad way. So as an answer to your query, yes anything more than 1+2 really doesnt add much quality at all. At least that is what I have found in my own use of RB and from the results in the thread mentioned above and also by speaking with Sir Didymous about his results.