Ripguard

[rotty]

Any news on this violation of OUR rights

[LordDethstar]

The player has to be able to read it at some point, so it will be possible to copy it. There is nothing Macrovision can do about it.
If I think about it, a perfect copy protection is very easy to implement. It just involves putting the DVD's label on both sides of the DVD... :rolleyes: :D

[Mug Funky]

how about a circular piece of cardboard with "movie" written on it in crayon? aint nobody getting a copyrighted movie off that.

[rotty]

Thanks LordDethStar, thats what I thought, although corrupting the data, i.e. cyclic errors players can cope with but makes coping long winded. But as you say, whatever they do it has to be readable by the existing players and therefore must be "get roundable".

[mpucoder]

What I'm wondering is if this is the same thing we've already seen, and that DVDDeCrypter can handle? Namely placing unrecoverable sectors (because they were written that way) in unrefferenced material. Players have no problem, since it is impossible to navigate to the bad sectors. But most rippers try to copy everything.

btw, if it is this method, it is a very old method. This method was used back in the days when games were distributed on floppy disk. It was even more effective then because the game would look for the bad sectors before permitting you to play it. So if you copied it by ignoring errors, it would not play. Fortunately a DVD can't do that.

Personal note: there's no love lost between me and Macrovision. Had it not been for stations like the one I was associated with getting the FCC involved, network broadcasts would have been "protected" by Macrovision. Fortunately the FCC took a dim view of violating broadcast standards. I see no reason for anyone to use their products, as they are totally ineffective against large scale piracy. The only people they prevent from making copies are those who lack the knowledge or equipment to circumvent the "protection" (which has invariably been a bastardization of the signal). These are the very people who have a right to make a copy.

[rotty]

Hi mpucoder

thanks for your reply, your so right about Macrovision and only hurting the very people who pose no threat.

I hope this dose'nt mean the start of further bastardisation of our media.

[Doom9]

I always want to throw up when I see the Macrovision ad at the end of a movie. It reads something like "Macrovision quality protection". How can the corruption of the video signal be called quality protection? If anything it's quality degradation.

[rotty]

Hi mpucoder
Forgot to say that your comment about corrupted data sectors on games disks takes me back to the days of the Amiga. What a great machine for it's day.