ANGLE and/or INTERLEAVING is present

[Amir]

Hi,

I'm a bit confused as i'm trying to process this title (ID4 SE) and i see this messgae. I've read the FAQ and it says multiangle DVDs are not supported and i'll be stopped from processing them. I'm not stopped and its processing it now. So i'm not sure whats going on, anyone shed any light on this?...or has anyone processed this disc?

[rocko1911]

Hi Amir,

I can bring some light to you:

Multiangle hasn't been supported for a long time (until DVD RB 0.64). From 0.65 there's Multiangle Support. So what you have read is meanwhile outdated.
But be careful: Many people encounter stutter/hang probs when playing rebuilded multiangle movies on Standalone Players. I think there's still a problem with the authoring.


CU,

Rocko

[Amir]

Originally posted by rocko1911
Hi Amir,

I can bring some light to you:

Multiangle hasn't been supported for a long time (until DVD RB 0.64). From 0.65 there's Multiangle Support. So what you have read is meanwhile outdated.
But be careful: Many people encounter stutter/hang probs when playing rebuilded multiangle movies on Standalone Players. I think there's still a problem with the authoring.


CU,

Rocko

Rocko,

Thanks for responding, I got the info on angles from the sticky at the top of this forum http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77696 guess it needs updating

"Currently DVD-RB cannot rebuild DVDs containing seamless branching or <b>angles</b>."

I've read after your response some people have been able to fix the stuttering by feeding the disc into dvdremake, but i think the trial version of remake does now allow export of DVD :-(

Maybe a fix via ifoedit is possible.. I'll run ID4 through rebuilder ( 0.67) and see what it produces.

thanks for the quick response btw.

[pg55555]

But be careful: Many people encounter stutter/hang probs when playing rebuilded multiangle movies on Standalone Players. I think there's still a problem with the authoring.

I completelly disagree with rocko1911 in this afirmation.

Actually most people are able to make very good working backups of the majority of the multiangle titles with RB.

The only general problem is with those titles that have extensive use of multiangle / ILVU: As in the current version of RB multiangle/ILVU parts are not compressed (they are just copied), if they are very large they do not leave space enough for the rest of the movie, resulting in very compressed=bad quality backups. RB rebuilder is working in a solution to this problem.

Some people are reporting this stutter/hang problem in some titles in some stanalones.

So, there is a high probability your backup will work perfectly just out of RB. In doubt, burn a RW and try it ibn your standalone.

[Amir]

I think its doing that (low bitrate) I've set CCE to 5 pass but am watching the encode and just noticed that in the filesize: it says (for example

filesize: 46620 (2.1 Mbps)

Thats looks like its doing what you said its 2.5hours long i think this movie IIRC.

[wmansir]

Sorry the stickies are out of date. I need to update almost all of them.

Angles/IlVu is still experimental. When you use it be sure to thoroughly test your output.

[rocko1911]

pg55555,

I do not agree with you. Many people are reporting problems with multiangles, even if there are only short multiangle parts (e.g. Star Wars). And as Wasimir said, this is still only experimental.

I'm not sure if running through DVD Remake is the solution. My solution is waiting with those multiangle movies. Jdobbs has done a great job on this proggy and he will fix these issues definetely!!


Huzzah to jdobbs!!!!


Rocko

[pg55555]

Amir,

The number of passes are in no way related to the bitrate.

The average bitrate for the encoding is posted by RB in the log window, and the end of the prepare phase. You can also check the individual bitrate calculate for each cell (and tweak it) using RBOpt


rocko1911

I was not saying the problem does not exist. I just wanted to point out that, in my opinion, the problem is a lot less pervasive that what you post implied. Of course, if you are one of the unluckies who are experincing the problem, it is very important to you.