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MuTeK
7th December 2004, 07:59
http://www.cli.co.jp/news/20041201pe.htm

CruNcher
7th December 2004, 20:08
will there be a trial version to test ?

bond
7th December 2004, 20:39
interesting, is there also a feature description? i tried it on some pages showing the full press release, but babelfish didnt manage to translate them (strange that the news release is only available in japanese :( )

Soulhunter
7th December 2004, 21:12
Well, I guess its only avaible in japan atm...

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/6587/h5npowerencoderb.jpg


Bye

bond
7th December 2004, 21:14
from what i could translate, there will be a download version (payware of course) at the "cyberlink online shop" starting from december 22, or so

IgorC
7th December 2004, 22:21
http://www.moonlight.co.il/down_video_h264.php - some
new video samples

moonlight h.264 player http://www.moonlightcordless.com/download/h264player1_0_8.zip

not bad

SeeMoreDigital
7th December 2004, 23:40
Thanks for the links IgorC,

I wonder why they like muxing Mpeg4 AVC/AAC content into the .mpeg container and not .MP4?

A definite no brainier and step backwads... if you ask me!


Cheers

bond
7th December 2004, 23:54
currently moonlight's player (directshow based btw) only supports the .mpg container (and raw .264 streams afaik)
but as discussed in the container forum, moonlight is working on a .mp4 splitter and muxer for directshow, so it seems they might join the .mp4 train too (like ahead, envivio and sorenson for example)

skal
8th December 2004, 11:38
howdy everybody,


A bit of warning here:

i've demuxed their sample "Tomsk_720x576_900kbit\ \(v720\).mpg",
and fed the h264 stream into latest h264 reference software (jm92).
The result is:

[EDIT]
... uninteresting crap deleted ...

Nic
8th December 2004, 11:43
@skal: How strange...
I know you must see Peter Gubanov's posts on the JVT mailing lists and he always seems quite savvy on all issues with h264. I'll try to double check it too :)

How's your h264 project going?

-Nic

skal
8th December 2004, 12:10
Hi Nic

Originally posted by Nic
@skal: How strange...
I know you must see Peter Gubanov's posts on the JVT mailing lists and he always seems quite savvy on all issues with h264. I'll try to double check it too :)



oops... you're right. It seems i indeed missed something in
the demuxing process. Using ffmpeg gives me a "more" correct
bitstream.

There only seem to be petty errors with unintentional loss of
pictures (gap_in_frame_number_not_allowed) at frame #30, dixit
jm92. That's affordable...



How's your h264 project going?

I've just found a chemical binary weapon! When you mix MBAff with
FR-Ext, it... explodes! ;)


-Skal

Nic
8th December 2004, 12:22
@skal:
Hi, even if they're petty, you could always post them on the JVT mailing list or directly to moonlight, i'm sure they'd do their best to fix them...(if they don't know about them already)

Your even onto the Frext extensions hey? ;) Nice work...I know you're closed source on this project, but any chance of seeing a demo encoder in the future? Or is it all going to be bought up by some firm?
(Not that i'm nosey or anything ;) )

Anyway, good luck with it :) I hope they're aren't too many explosions along the way...

-Nic

ps
@All: sorry to be OffTopic.

krackato
21st December 2004, 16:57
Saw this over at CDFreaks but didn't see it mentioned here.

Cyberlink PowerEncoder Mpeg-4 AVC Edition (http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/products/powerencoder/index.jsp)

It's $40 and I've never used any version of PowerEncoder before, but it looks like there's going to be a lot of these products out there soon. I'm looking for a demo but I can't seem to find one.

Includes Moonlight H.264 apparently (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86385&highlight=cyberlink)

bond
21st December 2004, 17:53
merged for keeping things together

SeeMoreDigital
21st December 2004, 18:24
Originally posted by bond
merged for keeping things together And quite rightly so ;)

Has anybody bought it/tried the "full" version yet?


Cheers

bond
4th December 2005, 13:10
Mutek, or any other elecard dev:
does cyberlink now use elecards encoder too? or did it buy and continue using moonlights?

Sergey A. Sablin
4th December 2005, 14:00
Mutek, or any other elecard dev:
does cyberlink now use elecards encoder too? or did it buy and continue using moonlights?
They are using Moonlight encoder.

bond
4th December 2005, 14:39
They are using Moonlight encoder.thx for the info!

do you know if they bought the encoder (decoder?) from moonlight? i mean not only the rights to use it, but to own it completely

Sergey A. Sablin
5th December 2005, 05:52
thx for the info!

do you know if they bought the encoder (decoder?) from moonlight? i mean not only the rights to use it, but to own it completely
No, they are just using our old encoder.

bond
5th December 2005, 09:46
ok thx