Chapters from hell

[DVDan]

Hello there helpful people,
This is a simple problem I'm sure but I'm very pushed for time :scared: . Using Scenarist, at the last chapter in a video stream if I press the next chapter button on the remote it skips to the first chapter in the next TITLE instead of returning to the root menu for the VTS. This even happens between the last chapter of the last TITLE of a VTS and the first chapter of the first TITLE in the next VTS :confused: . I have set the post cmds to return to the root menu but it won't work????
If anyone can help I would be very gratefull,
Thanks dan

[dgoodbourn]

What are you testing it on? And have you tried simulating it in Scenarist?? Does it give the same results???

D.

[DVDan]

I have been testing with winDVD6 and also burning disks to test in sony and philips players. I should point out that if I let the chapters play to the end they do return to the root menus correctly. The problem only occurs if I press the next chapter button while the last chapter is playing.

[dgoodbourn]

Are you using cell comands at all?

D.

[DVDan]

I havn't used cell commands before but I tried linking the cell of the last chapter to the root menu by dragging in the scenario editor. The build hasn't finnished yet but I will report back when it is.
dan

[dgoodbourn]

Yeah worth a go, but I try and stay away from cell commands if possible, as some players have 'issues' with them. It sounds very strange what is happening. Try simulating it in Scenarist and keep an eye on the information window, as it will tell you what it's doing. If it behaves fine in Scenarist then it sounds like either a corrupt project or a bad build. Try deleting the mux folder and cache folder, empty the bin and try another build. If that's no good, then you could do a straight Export then Import, delete the mux and cache folders and try another build.

btw, what version of Scenarist are you using???

D.

[DVDan]

Thanks dgoodbourn I'll try your suggestions, I'm using version 3.0.1
dan

[DVDan]

Still won't work:angry: Does anyone know of a command which will stop the skip to next chapter button from working if it is pressed during the last chapter????
dan

[DVDan]

ok I've fixed the problem by prohibiting the next chapter button on the last cell of each stream. This fixes my immediate problem, but should this have been a problem in the first place? I have a feeling I'm doing something silly:rolleyes:
dan

[dgoodbourn]

Usually what I do is either prohibit the skip forward in the last chapter (like you've done) or add a half a second bit of black to the end of the title as another chapter, that way it'll work the way you intended. I think some players might have a problem skipping forward from the last chapter in a title.

D.

[DVDan]

Which method is most compatable with home players? as I'd like people to be able to skip(>>) back to the menu.

[dgoodbourn]

Both are, it just depends on the clients. If you want to be able to skip forward to the main menu, then add a half a second of black video (12f for PAL and 15f for NTSC). Add it as a chapter and prohibit all the UOPs.

D.

[DVDan]

Gotcha! Thanks for the help:D

[skeggia]

To my understanding, Scenarist is doing well the build: during the last program in the title you have no chance to skip to next chapter (being the last, indeed). In the simulation window it should report something like "no nextPGC defined" or "this is the last pg...". Futher to the blank chapter solution (elegant but you are adding one more chapter), you can try this trick: with IFOedit (after the build) define the movie pgc being successor of itself. Example: if the movie is pgc-1 in VTS, put 1 in the field "next PGC" of pgc-1. That should work, because after that post commands are executed before looping.

hope this helps.

[dgoodbourn]

I don't think it matters if you add another chapter point at the end. As it's only there for half a second, 99% of people won't know it's there, or even care for that matter. And I haven't come across a client who is that bothered about the solution of adding another chapter point. But the IFOedit solution is interesting. Would be interesting to see an Interra/Eclipse report on the final build after it's been modified by IFOedit in this way.

D.