How to get rid of menus & stuff?

[cfp999]

Can I reauthor in DVD Rebuilder to get rid of menus, trailers, extras ect. ? I just want the main movie. If DVD Rebuilder cant reauthor, can I use another app to do it? I tried to reauthor using DVD Shrink (no compression) to prepare the movie, but DVD Rebuilder wont accept the files.

[Numer0bis]

normally it should work with dvdshrink if you set it to no compressionn. I don't know why it wouldn't work.:confused: Otherwhise you can use Ifoedit and select to create new Ifos with the main movie only. There is an excellent guide how to do this on doom9 (http://www.doom9.org/mpg/ifoedit-menustripping.htm#strip)

greetz Numer0bis

[cfp999]

Thanks for the link. I just discovered that DVD Rebuilder does not work with multi-angel movies. Maybe this explains it.

[Numer0bis]

stick to the new version 0.66, which supports multi angle or remove the angle with ifoedit or dvdshrink

[cfp999]

stick to the new version 0.66, which supports multi angle

Sure about this? I am using DVD ReBuilder V0.66a. Is there a newer version?

[f@chance]

Here is what I use and it does cost some money. I am of the firm believe if the code is good the person who wrote it deserves some cash.

DVDShrink to strip out all the audio and subtitles that you don't want and save everything uncompressed.

DVD Remake to delete Trailers, Warnings, Menus and other crap you don't want. Finaly hide buttons on Menus that that calls deleted material. Export the DVD

Now Rebuilder that will keep the menus uncompressed and does the magic on the streams that you want to keep.

All of this is very easy and in a GUI environment. Pay JDobbs a minimum of $10 and you will get version 0.67 plus DVD Remake costs about $30. I have not regretted this because it makes back-ups very easy with the best quality

[CoNS]

Only, when using DVD-RB with a disc created using DVDShrink's DVD author mode, you may run into trouble.

See this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86057) where I described a case where I kept getting an "bufferoverflow error #0003" in the rebuilding phase. The source was a disc authored by DVDShrink, where I had added 5-6 titles to one disc.

[cfp999]

Thanks. I guess reauthoring with DVD Shrink is a no go.

[CoNS]

Well, I've only tested it with that one disc authored with DVDShrink. Hard to say exactly why the error occured. If you do any testing of it please report your results! :)

[cfp999]

Just finished re-encoding Troy. Used DVD Shrink to rip out menus as I only want the main movie. The result is a 1.8GB movie containing only black emptiness and some red noisy bar near the bottom. I then opened some of the .AVS files with Windows Media Player. Here is what one of them read: MPEG2Source: couldn't open source file, or obsolete D2V file (C:\VIDEOPROC\D2VAVS\V01004700004021.AVS, line 5).

Maybe "butchering" with DVD Shrink is not compatible with DVD-Rebuilder.

[wmansir]

cfp999,

Does DVD-RB work with other discs, or the original source of Troy?

Also, you may want to try DGDecode.dll if you haven't upgraded from Mpeg2dec3dg.dll. Or you could try the installer (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84487&highlight=install) that Rockas made.

[jwu42]

I followed the advice of f@chance and made one of my first attempts with The Matrix as follows.

1. DVD Decrypter to rip the iso
2. DVD Shrink with no compression to remove all but AC3 5.1 Eng audio and Subtitles.
3. DVD Remake to cut out extras and the first few frames (WB logo etc.)
4. Then DVD-RB for a 5 pass using CCE SP.
5. The ImgTool to create the .iso and mount with Alcohol 120%.

All was going great. Menu loaded and started the movie. Then there was video but no audio and PowerDVD stopped. If I skipped ahead 45 seconds all was fine and the movie played great from there on.

I am assuming chopping those first few frames with DVD Remake caused the problems?

@ f@chance - ever run into this??

[f@chance]

Look at this thread regarding issues between Rebuilder and Remake:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84733&highlight=remake

I am using Remake version 2.54 and it works for me. Never ran into the problem that you described. When I strip the audio with DVD Shrink and than open up Rebuilder you notice that the audio tracks are still ticked. You should remove the ticks because the audio no longer exists.

For example I am backing up Voyager and take out the German, Italian, French sound track as well as all the subtitles except German. When Rebuilder examines the ripped files it still fills in the checkmarks so I remove them making sure that no audio SNAFU happens.

The only other thing that I have seen is that with some disks you have to modify the First Play entry because somehow they jump into nowhere land. Remake allows you to do this in the advanced mode.

Hope you get it done.

[jwu42]

f@chance

I did remove all but the 5.1 audio ticks in Rebuilder. Will re-try it again later after reading the link you pasted.

Thanks!

[cfp999]

I will use f@chance´s procedure to prepare the media. Then do a reinstall with Rockas installer. Will post results.

[jwu42]

An Update...

Redid this one as a 1+2 VBR pass (found a good thread on how many passes is typically adequate). Unchecked all the audio and have run into the same problem.

The .vob's prepared from DVD Remake (2.6.2) are fine with no problems in the audio. The final .vob's that DVD-RB produce are the ones with the problem.

For now - I am stumped - which is easy since I know so little :D

[f@chance]

To narrow down your problem do the following:

Either get Remake v. 2.54 and follow my procedure
OR
Do it without Remake and see if the problem is showing up.

If still no joy than use DVDDecryptor and rip your DVD as an ISO image mount it with Daemon tools as a virtual disk and than use Rebuilder with that virtual disk. Those are all free tools.

If still no joy than it's time to either acknowledge something is difficult to do with the disk or it's a bug in Rebuilder.

[jwu42]

I tried doing a OPV instead of multi-pass CCE. This is an error that has now shown itself the last 3 times I tried to Rebuild (Step 3).


Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't Happen - Contact Developer.

[cfp999]

I am happy to report that I finally got a perfect result with DVD Rebuilder, made from a movie preprocessed with Shrink DVD to get rid of menus. This time I used Rockas installer so I think something must have been wrong with my previous installation and/or settings.

[Rockas]

Happy to hear that ;)

keep it UP

[p200002]

On topic:

I use IFOEdit. It works great with DVD-RB. DVD Shrink - author main movie also works with DVD-RB.

Slightly offtopic:

Why wouldn't you guys recommend DVDReMake to stripe off audio tracks?

[jptheripper]

b/c remake doesnt let you strip audio yet

[bonefish]

I would like to see an audio stripping function in DvdReMake in the near future. Most software just blank it out, ifoedit is the only util i have seen so far that completely removes unwanted audio tracks.

[blueboyec]

I believe VOBblanker also removes audio and could do most of what DVDremake can do and it is freeware. Great program!

[jwu42]

As a follow-up to the problems I had above...

I finally did a go as follows with success.

1. DVD Decrypter (3.5.1) -> .iso mounted with Daemon Tools
2. DVD RB (.67) using DGDecode / Avisynth 2.55 / CCE 2.5 with latest ECLCCE
3. VBR 2 pass (1+1)

I suppose the pre-processing made the difference. I tried VobBlanker and DVD Remake without any success (errors listed above).

I am going to try reducing the bitrate with RB Opt on the remaining extras and menus to free up some for the main movie.

UPDATE: Tweaking the extras down to 500 for ~ 1.2 GB of data resulted in a 4.94 GB file - even though RB-Opt kept saying it was adjusting the other files bitrate upward to compensate

I am about to throw in the towel and just use Shrink...

Source is The Matrix - R1 - FWIW

[candsh]

I just made backups of two movies, Bourne Supremacy and Tremors IV and deliberately tried to butcher them to get a "bad encode" with RB v.0.68. I have never had anything but success with no preprocessing of any kind on all the past versions. This time I ripped with DeCryptor in ISO mode, mounted with Daemon Tools and then used VOB Blanker to remove (Blank) randomly different extras with Bourne Supremacy I left one of the extras, the menu and the main movie. Tremors, only left the main movie and the menu. RB processed them both without a hitch and playback was perfect on both. Really easy to do now that VOB Blanker has a preview window. I let RB do all the audio removal. Like I said I have left the preprocessing alone and this is my first attempt to do any at all and I went into the process with the Idea it would cause errors in RB. Not the case!!
All the RB Settings are standard fro CCE Basic with the exception of leaving steal space from extras at 25%. Burned with RecordNow Max at 4X on Bourne and 8X on Tremors

[CoNS]

Yep, I have the same experience with DVD-RB (version 0.62-0.67) - it works like a charm with material, which has been preprocessed with VobBlanker and PgcEdit in order to remove extras, studio logos and warnings etc. This involves blanking on titleset, PGC and even cell level.

Also, I usually delete obsolete menu buttons (in language menus etc.) using MenuEdit before processing with DVD-RB. No problem.

I let DVD-RB remove the unwanted audio and subtitle streams. And then afterwards I use DVDShrink in full author mode to remap the streams I kept (Options -> Logical remapping of enabled streams). This function now works with 99% of all DVDs in the new DVDShrink v3.2.15 - it cleans up the stripped streams AND makes sure that menu buttons etc. point to the correct streams.

The only kind of preprocessing that has caused an error in DVD-RB (v0.66a), was when I used DVD-Rb on a disc which was authored in DVDShrink using the DVD author function, where I had added 5 or 6 titles after each other. Here DVD-RB gave me an "buffer overflow error #0003" in the rebuilding phase.

[candsh]

I deliberately left Shrink out of the equation because in the past I have found navigaion problems with it. Seems you can pause and resume all you want to but sometimes when you skip ahead chapters or back a chapter it tends to hang and wont play properly. As long as you just insert the movie and let it go it plays perfectly. Never really tried much of anything with VOB Blanker but my experiment let me navigate all I wanted to with no problems, Also lets me "edit" out unwanted warnings and logos in the preview window. Can't see why you would need another program to preprepare the files for RB except for the menu buttons that point to nothing and you may be able to do this too. Just don't know how to at the moment. I let RB take care of the Audio and Subs so that it is doing it the way it wants to do it.

[Whitespliff]

No more problems on with RB & ReMake.
It must have been bad DVD's :D

These 2 programs should be used together, best way to backup any disc.

Btw, audio & sub stripping is planned!

[f@chance]

@Witespliff

I noticed that you had problems in the past with preprocessing of Remake and than Rebuilder. What version of Remake are you using now? Since my changes with Remake are basic I am still using 2.54 because of your post in their forum. Was it a bad DVD rip?

[Whitespliff]

@ f@chance

It wasn't a bad rip, it was a bad DVD.
Decrypter gave me an error, something with a CSS or RCE protection, not sure anymore.
Shrink ripped it but PowerDVD would even play the unedited ripped version on my HD.
I simply gave up trying :(

I'm using ReMake 2.6.3 & RB 0.68 now, did a few movies, no errors anymore.
These 2 versions seem to work ok together.

Even if I would have a DL burner I would keep using ReMake, I hate those warnings, trailers & logo's so... "Me happy again" :D

[Rockas]

I've never done any pre-processing with Shrink but for all of you guys that got problems with it:
Have you tested with the option [under edit(menu)->preferences->Output files(tab)] "Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams" Checked/enabled?
Just a guess :)

keep it UP

[Whitespliff]

"Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams" is a nice feature but it sometimes messes up the buttons in menu's.
First audio-stream is 0 & first sub is 64 (values of RM, not sure if other programs use them); with remapping on you change these values.

Ex. Dutch is second sub stream (65) on a DVD:
I rip other subs -> Dutch is now 64 -> menu button doesn't work (it points to a stream that isn't there anymore).

I'm not sure if this is always a problem but I've had problems with it.

[Rockas]

Well if that option fixes the compatibility with Rebuilder (I don't know if it does - as I said I don't make pre-processing of any kind) I think you can always fix the buttons with PGCEdit.

keep it UP

[jptheripper]

its tough when menus use direct instead of relative mapping to subs and languages.

my opinion:

use menuedit or dvd remake to remap the button

dont strip subs.. they dont take room anyway