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takeshimiyagawa
17th November 2004, 05:25
From DVD Faq (http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html):


A disc also can have up to 32 subpicture streams that overlay the video for subtitles, captions for the hard of hearing, captions for children, karaoke, menus, simple animation, etc. These are full-screen, run-length-encoded bitmaps with two bits per pixel, giving four color values and four transparency values. For each group of subpictures, four colors are selected from a palette of 16 (from the YCbCr gamut), and four contrast values are selected out of 16 levels from transparent to opaque. Since one of the four values is usually 100% transparency (to let the video show through), only three combinations of colors and transparencies are left, making overlay graphics rather crude. Subpicture display command sequences can be used to create effects such as scroll, move, color/highlight, and fade. The maximum subpicture data rate is 3.36 Mbps, with a maximum size per frame of 53220 bytes.

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I need an authoring program that can do subtitle effects (fade in/out in particular) for PC.
The only I know that can do that is Apple DVD Studio Pro (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=DVD_Studio_Pro) 3 [http://www.apple.com/dvdstudiopro/specs.html] but is only for MAC.


Subtitling
* Subtitler integrated into application
* Add up to 32 subtitle streams per track
* Set position, font, size, style and color, fade in and fade out
* Enter timecode or drag in Timeline to set start, stop and duration
* Built-in title safe and action safe areas
* Use graphics in subtitles
* Import subtitles in .son, .stl, .txt, and .scr formats
* Use buttons over video


Anyone knows a dvd authoring/tool that can do that?

Also would be great if the program can handle subtitle overlaps.

jel
17th November 2004, 06:57
i know that sonic scenarist can apply fade in/fade out effects.

as for subtitle overlaps, i am not exactly sure what you are referring to ... i know that scenarist will have a fit if there are two subtitles overlapping within the same stream.

hth
j

Arky
17th November 2004, 13:11
I was going to recommend DVD SP 3, but I see that you are already aware of it's ability to create subtitle fades (incredibly easily), and do not wish to go ahead with this authoring program.


Victor Tung might be able to help you, although I am not sure if he sells the following util as a standalone retail product (most of his stuff is provided to secondary developers, as .dlls):

http://www.authoringware.com/custom.htm


Arky ;o)

LB
17th November 2004, 14:19
Originally posted by takeshimiyagawa
I need an authoring program that can do subtitle effects (fade in/out in particular) for PC.


Hmm. I'm surprised no one responded sooner. Maestro can fade. It's common knowledge I thought.

Fade In and Fade Out Times
The Fade In and Fade Out parameters are used to apply a transitional effect as the
subtitle starts and ends. The fade times are entered in frames, and the fade effects can be
seen with the RealView Previewer and Navigation Simulator, as well as in the final
compiled title. Fade times can be set individually for every subtitle.This is located in the individual subtitle's "Common Parameters."


And regarding overlaps, if your script is in SSA format, use MaestroSBT to convert the SSA->BMP. During the conversion, any lines that are "overlapped" will simply be created as a BMP with both lines. So there is no extra work/headache when factoring in overlaps.

Fireye
18th November 2004, 06:32
Fades are transparency fades, IIRC. They really don't look all that great >_>

Sherlock_2
19th November 2004, 15:30
Hi
Is there any guide or manual for Sub Station Alpha ?

It is a professional software so I want to learn it step by step
Can any one help me about guide or any manual ?

Thanks

ghobbsus
22nd November 2004, 20:58
Originally posted by LB
This is located in the individual subtitle's "Common Parameters."


Thanks for the tip. Is there a way to automate the process so that one doesn't have to go in and edit each subtitle?

I posted this question a few threads up, but thought I'd post here as well, as my question falls under the same category as this one (relating to subtitle fades), and as I felt compelled to thank LB for explaining that this can be done in Maestro in the first place.

LB
24th November 2004, 16:32
Originally posted by ghobbsus
Thanks for the tip. Is there a way to automate the process so that one doesn't have to go in and edit each subtitle?

I posted this question a few threads up, but thought I'd post here as well, as my question falls under the same category as this one (relating to subtitle fades), and as I felt compelled to thank LB for explaining that this can be done in Maestro in the first place.

Thanks. Hmm... I did some poking around and found that if you convert your script to .STL format (I don't know what format that is though, but maestro accepts it) it has a "fade" command in it. I don't know if you can apply the command at the top of the script and it will work universally on each sub, or you need to do it on every sub... but either way, it's possible if you use a .STL file.

ghobbsus
26th November 2004, 23:58
Thanks again, LB. I made a .STL file with Subtitle Workshop, then opened it in a text editor. I found the following section at the top of the file:

//Effects Control
$ForceDisplay = FALSE
$FadeIn = 0
$FadeOut = 0

After editing the $FadeIn and $FadeOut values to 10 and 10, I imported the file into Maestro, and every subtitle had corresponding fade-in and fade-out values.

LB
28th November 2004, 07:10
Originally posted by ghobbsus
Thanks again, LB. I made a .STL file with Subtitle Workshop, then opened it in a text editor. I found the following section at the top of the file:

//Effects Control
$ForceDisplay = FALSE
$FadeIn = 0
$FadeOut = 0

After editing the $FadeIn and $FadeOut values to 10 and 10, I imported the file into Maestro, and every subtitle had corresponding fade-in and fade-out values.

Awesome!