MS probably used cracked copies of SoundForge for Windows

[avih]

The Inquirer (http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19651)
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simple:
use a hex editor to open any of the .waf files in C:\WINDOWS\Help\Tours\WindowsMediaPlayer\Audio\Wav. go to the the end of the file. bam, Deepz0ne ;) (appearantly, one of the crackers of fraunhofer mp3)

hehe

[Doobie]

There was a story not too long ago about a RIAA-friendly congressman who was illegally useing software on his website (it was free to use if certain information was displayed on the website).

I wonder how much illegal software Bill Gates used before he was richer than rich. Or, how many songs top RIAA members traded when they were teens.

I wouldn't believe them if they denied it, but I bet every Micrsoft programmer has been guilty of "piracy" at some point. I bet if you searched their homes and offices right now, you'd find that most of them have pirated content right now... in spite of their ability to easily buy any software they might need.

[neo75903]

I think we all have used some illegal software somewhere sometime.
Maybe those pictures where acquired throug a third party company who is responsible for M$ graphics.

[PiXuS]

Originally posted by neo75903
I think we all have used some illegal software somewhere sometime.
Maybe those pictures where acquired throug a third party company who is responsible for M$ graphics.

It's probably a guy who, under pressure, had no choice but use the pirated software. Still... it is the responsability of Microsoft. Saying that every individual once did it, so it's okay for a Monopoly like Microsoft to do it... hmmmm.... Microsoft is a corporation with a lot more benefits than a normal humain being has so I wouldn't treat both on the same level.

And it is not the first time such a thing happens. I vaguely remember something similar in the days of DOS.... I think Microsoft literally took the code of a defragmenter utility... you could look into the binary code and see the name of the company! I think it was with DOS 5 or 6....

There is also BSD code in some of the cmd utilities, but that is legal.

[neo75903]

@PiXuS:
I didnt mean that m$ is big and they can do whatever they want to do. The graphics in question may be purchased from another company who used cracked software. Therefor m$ cannot be held responsble for. In this case they are the end user.
This is also true for us using m$ windows, we cannot be responsible for in case m$ itself put something into windows or used something illegal to develop it.
Ofcoz this is hypothetical, your assumption may also be true.

DOS was compiled from different things and put together and boxed by m$.
They did it with afik with doublespace from stacker which was taken over by m$ coz they were suing m$ :), BASIC they have bought somewher else, msbackup, ...
Must be a good time for m$ prgramming team at time.
Gates: we need x feature.
Programmer: they have it.
Gates: ok lets buy them.
Programmer: i will rename it to m$X

:)

[jorel]

:rolleyes:

http://img116.exs.cx/img116/6639/billbill.jpg

:confused: :o :( :sly: ....:cool:
:p

[neo75903]

erm little correction at my posts, we are dealing with sound files and not graphic files.

[NobbyNobbs]

MS sell them with Windoze, so they are not the end user.
A corporation is regarded as a person, if they can just say that it was one of them nasty programmers did it, it would be just as easy to hand out "Get out of jail free" cards when they filed for corporate status.

[neo75903]

i dont agree, if they bought those files from a third company then the blame must be redirected to that company.
You are looking from your 'user' perspective.

What if you are a developer and uses Visual Studio to write your programs. What if they discover that some parts of VS is not all legal?
Does that mean you can be sue for it? No you will say you have nothing to do with it and it is m$ who is in fault.

If m$ is quilty of this.
I think this might be an oppertunity for Sony (new owner of Sound Forge) to sue m$. Let say 1 dollar per sold windows?
You can pay alot of laywers with that :)

[NobbyNobbs]

I do not know if the sound files themself are ilegal, but MS is responsible for the use of pirated software within MS, not the individual employes, as a corporation, MS is the "person" responsible.

[shevegen]

MS can be hold accountable for the content of their products.
There still wasnt an official statement from MS or?


I wonder what will happen. Or rather, what _could_ happen?

I would love to see something funny, but i fear i will just hear MS silence...... and silence is so boring

[wmansir]

It's probably a result of something like neo said. They hired a 3rd party to create sound files and that party used a cracked program. Even if it was in-house I doubt Sonic Foundry would do much beyond a polite request to track down the offender. No company wants to make an enemy of MS.

[neo75903]

Oracle, Sun, Novell :) Lesser for Sun coz they need m$ to survive right now :/
Ow not to forget Sendeo,smartphone builder, where m$ stoll their ideas and left Sendeo Bleeding to death? Nice partnership :)

[PiXuS]

Originally posted by neo75903
What if you are a developer and uses Visual Studio to write your programs. What if they discover that some parts of VS is not all legal?
Does that mean you can be sue for it? No you will say you have nothing to do with it and it is m$ who is in fault.

Actually, you could be sued, but then you would turn around and sue Microsoft. That's how it works here in Canada.