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acrespo
11th November 2004, 20:20
I need a software able to fit a movie in one DVD-R or split movie to 2 disks preserving the menus in the second disk.
I found CloneDVD (Elby software) but this software can't break any protection (UOP, Macrovision, region).

I found DVDFab but I can't found a option to fit movie, only to split. Is it true?

Well, is there any alternatives?

castellanos
11th November 2004, 20:26
Don't tell me that you don't know "DVD Shrink"?
Download it here (http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?file=dvdshrink32setup.zip).
Greetings! ;)

acrespo
11th November 2004, 20:30
I bought my DVD Writer last week and I am newbie. I didn't try DVDShrink yet but I will give it a chance ;)

Thanks

acrespo
12th November 2004, 13:30
I am trying to do a backup of Troy movie. DVD Shrink is inform me a 57.3% of compression after disable all menus, languages and subtitles that I don't need. In re-author mode the compression is 58.1%.

I saw in this forum that DVD Shrink is not good to compress anything more than 75%.Is it true?

Is there other software that can compress with more quality? I see that Instant Copy 8 have many adepts in forum. Is it good for this case?

castellanos
12th November 2004, 15:57
Hi. My advice is to believe what you see with your own eyes! If somebody said that DVD Shrink is not good for hi compressions... it is just an opinion, some others may think something different. The best is what's the best for you.
And after making you remember that DVD shrink is FREE!, You can, of course, try with another programs like Pinnacle Instant Copy 8, Nero Recode, Clone DVD etc... all of them are excelents transcoders, but they are no rippers, in that case, you should decrypt you DVD in your HD before using DVD Decrypter (for example) and then try to transcode using one of that programs, or you can use a on the fly decryption tool like: "AnyDVD" or "DVD Region+CSS Free".
All the programs I've mentioned, except DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink, are not free... so if you want to make some test before to decide wich program is the best for you, you will need to deal with demo versions or spend a few Reales!
Greetings! :)

acrespo
12th November 2004, 17:46
I have Nero Recode here. Some features are very close to DVD Shrink, but I don't know about quality and ability to split to several DVDs. I will test Troy movie to compare with my CloneDVD and DVD Shrink copy.

Edit:

I found in the site http://www.10ts.com/copy_dvd9_dvd5.htm the follow information about quality:

1)CCE (+DVD Rebuilder) 4 pass: Superb quality. This is THE standard.

2)QuEnc (+DVD Rebuilder) 2 pass: Very high quality (between CCE and Instant Copy 8)

3)Nero Recode 2.1 (2 pass, H.Q.): Very high quality, although a few action scenes may reveal limitations.

4)Instant Copy 8: High quality

5) DVDShrink 3.2 : High quality (same level of Instant Copy 8), although action scenes may reveal some limitations.

6) CloneDVD 2: Good, especially considering speed

7) DVD2One: Reasonably good, although nothing as good as the other applications

I am surprise with Nero Recode information, because I found in this forum that the quality is worst than DVD Shrink. Can anybody confirm that?

jorel
12th November 2004, 23:44
hi acrespo!

you're lucky..posted today in doom9 portuguese forum:

dvdshrink in 2 steps with same percentage give better quality that only one big step:
http://doom9pt.dvd2go.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296

or in english inside dvdshrink forum:
DVDShrink in 2 steps (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?threadid=42610)

i can't trust that you don't know DVDShrink and the doom9 portuguese forum!
:p

welcome! :)

acrespo
13th November 2004, 04:10
I don't understand some things.

1)Where DVD Shrink save all data from 1st pass?
2)After 1st pass I need to burn other DVD before do 2nd pass. How can I open 1st pass data to burn 2nd pass after burn this other DVD?

castellanos
13th November 2004, 17:27
First pass in DVD Shrink? I think you mean the analysis...
They are under All user files... I can not tell you exactly, because my OS is in German!
Greetings! :)

jorel
14th November 2004, 02:25
Originally posted by acrespo
I don't understand some things.

1)Where DVD Shrink save all data from 1st pass?
2)After 1st pass I need to burn other DVD before do 2nd pass. How can I open 1st pass data to burn 2nd pass after burn this other DVD?

1- in any folder that you choose.is your choice! ;)
like show the text and that picture:
selecione "HARD DISK FOLDER" e escolha a pasta de destino
(select "HARD DISK FOLDER" and choose the destiny folder)
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/8038/cam3.jpg

2- burn? no..the guide show clearly where you have to save the first step.

you will open the result of the first step like posted:
...após o primeiro passo, abra o DVDShrink novamente e ajuste em
"Preferences" para DVD-5 (4.7GB) ...4464MB.
(...after the first step, open DVDShrink again and adjust in
"preferences" to DVD-5 (4.7GB)...4464MB.)
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/2663/dvd5.jpg

agora abra a pasta onde salvou o primeiro passo
(now open the folder where you saved the first step)
http://img109.exs.cx/img109/1965/1575.jpg

you will trancode each step always in "HARD DISK FOLDER" and after that,
you burn the video_ts folder created in the final(second) step!

http://doom9pt.dvd2go.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296
is very clear acrespo, and you are brasilian like me and there have a link to the guide in english (you know english better than me).
you can go to DVDShrink forum where was posted exactely the same as in doom9 portuguese forum.
is easy for all and double easy for you that can read and write in that 2 languages.....just follow the text and the pictures!
:)
sorry for late answer,i was busy and saw you here only now but i was answered you soon in doom9 portuguese forum.
you're welcome here and there and post all your doubts!
best regards!
:)

Richk50
14th November 2004, 16:51
"I found CloneDVD (Elby software) but this software can't break any protection (UOP, Macrovision, region).'

Just use DVDdecryptor and then Fab, and put on 2 disks.
I wouldn't use any product to compress as much as you need on this project to put on 1 disk. They will all look bad.

jorel
15th November 2004, 14:44
Originally posted by Richk50

I wouldn't use any product to compress as much as you need on this project to put on 1 disk. They will all look bad.
i understand but it's not as "law", you will see that the result depend how you do it.
try this and post your impressions please:

DVDShrink in 2 steps with same percentage (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?threadid=42610)

use one double layer as source to a single DVD-5...you only can know how good it is if you test. ;)

acrespo
16th November 2004, 12:54
Thanks jorel, I read again and understood how DVDShrink save 1st pass information. As you said, save 1st pass and open the result in DVD Shrink again to do the 2nd pass.

;)

Richk50
16th November 2004, 15:58
"Originally posted by Richk50
I wouldn't use any product to compress as much as you need on this project to put on 1 disk. They will all look bad."
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i understand but it's not as "law", you will see that the result depend how you do it."

It's really subjective. I have found the more copies I make the more critical I've become.
57% or 58% really sounds like a lot of compression.
Movies I really like I try to keep them as close to the original as possible. I'm only paying 25 cents per dvdr, so it's not a big deal to go with 2 disks.
Good luck.

jorel
17th November 2004, 03:02
all right, your opinion is very good and will help me to express why i did it.
:)
It's really subjective. I have found the more copies I make the more critical I've become. i'm critical of image too. was my work for 32 years and is my(good)taste for 45 years.
57% or 58% really sounds like a lot of compressionagain i write: it's not a "law", depende of the action,darkness and lots of details but it's not the point. some people want to shirnk they dvds.some can't go ahead 20%, some can't go after 30% bur some go after 50%...this is not subjective,this is taste or options of each person and depend of the source like i told you.for that people that go ahead 30%, i did tests searching and thinking how to get the best result for that big compression and found that is better 2 shorts transcodes then only one big transcode-->this is the reason of the guide: as critical i saw that using big compression give more losses than using 2 littles compressions cos seems that two passes would compress the B-pictures more heavily than the I or P pictures and give better results....and this give better results.
Movies I really like I try to keep them as close to the original as possible. good. ;) me too....but i don't transcode or encode simple movies, only musicals and cartoons for my kid. the reason is that i can watch lez zep, camel, king crimson and others thousands times than i backup my dvds but i can't see matrix 10 times and for me, encode or transcode single movies is out of my personal taste.
as you can see, we all have differents tastes and targets and i agree with your taste and with the people who want a big transcode using DVDShrink, i only found a way to get better result for that big compression. :)

...so it's not a big deal to go with 2 disks.Richk50, please, explain me now what "to go with 2 disks" means.
here i don't understood what you mean cos 2 disks nothing have to do with the guide and it's not a big deal for you use 2 disks.
then, how acrespo will solve his problem?? :confused:

thanks!
;)



@ acrespo
great. :)
if you have any doubt please, post here or in portuguese forum!

;)