RB 0.67 & My 1st MultiAngel Disc (6.47GB), Results: 26.9%, 550Kbs BR, 852MB Video?

[VamPYR]

Hi,
Not sure should post screenshot or not, cause rarely seen any screenshot at doom9 forum:D
So, i just write it down what show in DVD-RB prepare screen

VIDEO Title Sets: VTS_01 (6,627MB, 4:3)
AUDIO Streams to Keep : Audio_01 & Audio_02 (2ch)
Subtitle to Keep : Subpicture_01

Detected Angle and/or Interleaving on Source
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- VTS_01: 3,220,985 sectors.
-- Angle and/or Interleaving is present.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 304,360 frames.
-- Building .AVS and ECL files
- Reduction Level For DVD-5: 26.9%
- Overall Bitrate : 550Kbs
- Space for Video : 852,614KB
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 1,964/927/550 Kbs

i checked the 'D2VAVS' folder after preparation it was only 1.26MB
i've never done multiangle disc by using RB before, this is my 1st try, but i see the result showing after the preparation was something going wrong? so i shared my result here.

Thanks everyone & thanks jdobbs for the fantastic work on RB!

[jdobbs]

You probably have an exceptionally large ILVU area that is stealing all the available space or a large group of small VTSs that aren't being compressed. It's also possible that an LPCM stream could have this type of impact. On the ILVU front I know I have some work to do in this area and you should see some additional options in one of the upcoming versions.

[TheSeeker]

Yea Ive been wondering about this issue. Just curious how you were thinking about going about implementing it. Are you going to have it all automated. ie. DVDRB sees an ILVU portion bigger than value X then it will be encoded otherwise it will be left totally untouched? Or will you actually have to turn on large ILVU processing? I really dont see why it shouldn't be automated although Im not the genius either and what the hell do I know. Just a curious tinkerer.

[VamPYR]

Thanks jdobbs fo the quick reply, i'll do the test again when you release the upcoming versions.
Both audio are AC3, no LPCM, seem like the large ILVU area that cause this. Cause they are so many 'angle icon' appear during the movie.
cheers.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by TheSeeker
Yea Ive been wondering about this issue. Just curious how you were thinking about going about implementing it. Are you going to have it all automated. ie. DVDRB sees an ILVU portion bigger than value X then it will be encoded otherwise it will be left totally untouched? Or will you actually have to turn on large ILVU processing? I really dont see why it shouldn't be automated although Im not the genius either and what the hell do I know. Just a curious tinkerer. I'm planning on the software making the decisions. Luckily I've already written a lot of the code for this... my original plan was to go that way. The only decision that may be left to the user might be whether to keep an angle at all.

[Morbo]

Im starting to get more and more multi-angle discs,and they all seem to have three angles each....I know the Star Wars trilogy has different opening angles,but I got Pulp Fiction the other day(the special edition) and it has 3 angles on it,but I cant figure out if theres any difference between them.

I believe they are just making life a bit harder....

Only a few,special edition dvds actually use multi-angles
like you'd think(Final Fantasy,MIB),the rest are just done that
way for no reason I believe.

Cheers!

[jdobbs]

Most of the ones I've seen are short sequences at the beginning and end -- generally where there is text displayed on the screen. The angles include language (text) differences (like credits). It's getting more common.

[kooky]

i had this same issue with Simpsons Season 4
Each DVD has one bonus with 3 angles

DVDRB 0.66a reduced to ~15% with ~550kbs

Quality was so bad, even DVD Shrink gave me a better quality :(

i hope you will find a solution to re-encode mutli-angles to have a better quality with those particular movies

[ChickenMan]

Originally posted by kooky
i had this same issue with Simpsons Season 4
Each DVD has one bonus with 3 angles

DVDRB 0.66a reduced to ~15% with ~550kbs

Quality was so bad, even DVD Shrink gave me a better quality :(

i hope you will find a solution to re-encode mutli-angles to have a better quality with those particular movies
I got similar info from Simpsons Season 5. DVDRB 0.69 & 0.70 (tryed) to reduce to 32% with 1257kbs. But I get "Runtime error 6 - Overflow" during prepare. Finally used Shrink at 55% with barely acceptable picture.

In the pic, note it predicts the target size of VTS_7 as 2 sectors, while infact its made up of 2 VOB files totalling 1.21gb. This vob set contains angles as well and is where the error occurs. Similar situation in the other 3 dvd's of the set.

[berndy2001]

@all: if you can do it without the angles, remove them before using RB (eg DvdremakePro)
if it works, be happy, if not (dropouts etc.), forget it.