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Boulder
2nd December 2004, 21:52
Don't use SmoothDeinterlace, there are much better deinterlacers which support YV12. See KernelDeint or TDeint for example.

UnDot won't hurt any encode but I'd be careful with Deen. Try TemporalSoften(2,3,3,6,2) instead of Deen for minimal filtering, I bet you won't be able to tell the difference but compressibility will rise quite nicely.

EDIT: I wonder why the error message didn't show up clearly in that screenshot?

TheSeeker
2nd December 2004, 22:07
I have found Mipsmooth to be a very nice filter as well. But I have only used it with anime so Im not sure if it would be as useful for natural picture films.

My suggestion would be to try some exotic filtering before deinterlacing anything. Look around for some good noise reduction filters and maybe an intelligent smoother. I have heard great things about Dust for noise removal but it only works with the older version of avisynth. 2.0 i think.

jdobbs
2nd December 2004, 23:56
Originally posted by glassvial
Duh I should have known that. Well I was also playing with smoothdeinterlacer as suggested by TheSeeker and it was that which was throwing the error, something about only support YUV2 and RGB32 formats (I think...I deleted the job now) so...

A) How do I get smoothdeinterlacer to work?
B) Should I try deen/undot on other things besides this B&W backup, other older material like TV shows and movies from the 60's (Star Trek TOS, for example) or should I leave well enough alone on things like that?
C) Thanks for the continued help, all of you :) If the filter requires YUY2 -- just put the conversion filter into the filter editor before the filter that requires it. DVD-RB does a final ConvertToYUY2() before outputing anyway. If the colorspace is already YUY2 -- it will do nothing... so there is no slowdown in adding the conversion earlier.

Boulder
3rd December 2004, 09:02
Originally posted by TheSeeker

My suggestion would be to try some exotic filtering before deinterlacing anything.

Deinterlace first - then filter. There are some exceptions to this rule, at least GuavaComb and DeDot (not UnDot;) ).

Dust can be used with Avisynth 2.5x but it's dead slow, you'll get similar results with RemoveGrain().RemoveDirt() combo which works a lot faster.

TheSeeker
3rd December 2004, 14:43
You dont necessarily HAVE to deinterlace... As long as your only using temporal filters deinterlacing isnt an issue.

Boulder
3rd December 2004, 14:47
IF you have an interlaced source, you need to take special care whenever you process it. Bob (either a smart or a stupid one), filter, resize, add borders, then re-interlace.

But if the movie is still the same where the screenshots are from, it's progressive and no need to deinterlace whatsoever. And Star Trek TOS isn't interlaced either;)

Rockas
3rd December 2004, 15:31
@glassvial

Seems like your having some problems when loading some filters...
do you have dvd2svcd installed on your computer?

glassvial
3rd December 2004, 15:46
Originally posted by Rockas
@glassvial

Seems like your having some problems when loading some filters...
do you have dvd2svcd installed on your computer?
No.