Batch Processing problems? Acting strange

[eriksen76]

Sorry for asking but I've been reading several posts but not finding the answer to my question.

I want to make 3 movies in a row. I do the following:

1. Enable batch processing
2. Make the right settings for the first movie and save project.
3. Do the same for the two other movies

The problem is that if I open a project to see if the settings are correct it deletes some of the settings made. For example the it enables the audiodub (blank clip) on one of them, which was disabled before.

On one of the projects I enabled disable interlaced, but that setting dissapeard??

What am I doing wrong here??

Thought it was as easy as encoding one movie, only that in batch processing mode it does the 3 different projects in a row.

The folder settings are correct

/Julius

[tremens]

All I can really tell you is I've been using batch processing with every version of DVDREBUILDER I've used and never had this issue. Make sure you save each movie after doing the settings.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by tremens
All I can really tell you is I've been using batch processing with every version of DVDREBUILDER I've used and never had this issue. Make sure you save each movie after doing the settings.

I do save after each movie?? Does it matter where I save. Actually I just saved the 3 files to desktop?? Please try again and remeber to disable interlaced. Thats one of the options it screws up together with the audio dub (blank clip)

Kinda stuck here.

I will gladly send the project files with email so you can see for yourself, that its not saving all the settings. I must be doing something wrong...

/Julius

[dannyv]

Originally posted by eriksen76

The problem is that if I open a project to see if the settings are correct it deletes some of the settings made. For example the it enables the audiodub (blank clip) on one of them, which was disabled before.
/Julius

I just did a 7 disk set and boy did I get confused on the batch file processing.

Try this.

Set up your first job and save it with a unique file name such as stdisk1. Then save the next job to the same place as stdisk2 etc. Keep setting them up until there all done. Then load them all.

Now lets say you need to edit a particular job. Go to file/open and click the job (lets say stdisk2) and notice it loads the configuration. What I'm trying to say is that to recheck the job you can't just click the job in the batch window you must reload it via the file/open. I hope this clears things up if not let me know and I'll see if I can help further.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by dannyv
I just did a 7 disk set and boy did I get confused on the batch file processing.

Try this.

Set up your first job and save it with a unique file name such as stdisk1. Then save the next job to the same place as stdisk2 etc. Keep setting them up until there all done. Then load them all.

Now lets say you need to edit a particular job. Go to file/open and click the job (lets say stdisk2) and notice it loads the configuration. What I'm trying to say is that to recheck the job you can't just click the job in the batch window you must reload it via the file/open. I hope this clears things up if not let me know and I'll see if I can help further.

Actually I think I did the same as you just wrote. I save lets say 2 different projects. But then you ask me to load them all??

I believe you mean add them all to the batch processing window? I just never do so cause I want to check if the settings are correct.So I open the projects one after one. The problem is that they never are, as it simply deletes most of my settings except for the folders for the material.

So my problem is that even if I re-open the project, make the proper (missing) changes, and save it once again with the same name, and add the project to batch processing window, I end up with the same old settings. It never saves the setting correctly?

I'm getting more and more confused....

Hope I made my problem clear

/Julius

[tremens]

Yeah it looks like the disable interlaced is not staying saved for me either. I don't normally use that option, so I never noticed.

Paul

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by tremens
Yeah it looks like the disable interlaced is not staying saved for me either. I don't normally use that option, so I never noticed.

Paul

Guess I'm not the only one having the problem. Thank god...

It also automaticly adds the audio/blank clip option. Only thing it saves in my case is the folder settings, and number of passes.

/Julius

[dannyv]

Originally posted by eriksen76
Guess I'm not the only one having the problem. Thank god...

It also automaticly adds the audio/blank clip option. Only thing it saves in my case is the folder settings, and number of passes.

/Julius

I see what your talking about now. I just set up 3 jobs and what ever is set in options such a half/d1 stays the same for all jobs. you can't set options for individual jobs. This may be a bug.

[dannyv]

the problem only seems to be in the avs options.

[eriksen76]

You are absolutely right, only in the avs option.

But I guess I can make it work using the program "RBFARM". If I ONLY do the preperation in DVDRB for the e.g 3 movies I would like to process.

Then point RBFARM to the 3 newly created avs "ECL" files. And when that is complete I do the rebuilding with RB.

That should work with the right settings so that the "saving projects" doesn't have to be done. And without screwing things up as it uses the exact settings as made with RB and the rebuilding is done with RB as well.

Comments are open

/Julius

[casperse]

DAM! Your right!!

I never tried to load them after saving them....

This means that I cant use the Batch feat. :eek:

I hope there is a fix comming soon

Cheers

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by casperse
DAM! Your right!!

I never tried to load them after saving them....

This means that I cant use the Batch feat. :eek:

I hope there is a fix comming soon

Cheers

Hopefully Jdobbs will see this post and fix it

/Julius

[jdobbs]

I'll look at it... but I gotta tell you. I've done pretty much every single disc I have in batch mode... no problems. If there is a bug I'll fix it.

[jacota]

i usually batch process two movies at a time. when rebuilder is finished i check the settings and two of my settings are always changed. this is for all versions.

when i begin, under avs options, audiodub(blank clip) is unchecked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is checked.
afterwards the two settings are reversed.

the movies come out good, but i wonder if they are not as good as they could be? it makes me think that the settings were changed before the second movie could be processed.

richard

[casperse]

Just to explain the problem in detail.

1) Set settings for each Rebuild project and save them
2) Load the saved project file and under avs options, audiodub(blank clip) is checked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is unchecked.

This is no matter what your settings are?

So if I add the two saved project file to the batch mode the settings will be wrong!

I have tryed to modify (notepad) the saved project file, with no success.

So its true that the batch job works but the settings are wrong


But keep up the god work jdobbs!

:D

[jdobbs]

I found something last night. It appears that a few of the settings that aren't set to the default at the time a new .RDB is loaded gets inverted (rather than set) -- I typically keep the default settings, so that would explain why I haven't seen it. I fixed it and it will be in v0.64.

[casperse]

Thanks Great work jdobbs ! :D

[eriksen76]

Thanx alot!

Same problem with "disable interlaced". That also changes

/Julius

[dannyv]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I found something last night. It appears that a few of the settings that aren't set to the default at the time a new .RDB is loaded gets inverted (rather than set) -- I typically keep the default settings, so that would explain why I haven't seen it. I fixed it and it will be in v0.64.

Thanks jdobbs

[jacota]

im with everyone else, jdobbs. thanks a lot.

richard

[Sophoclesdrf]

eriksen76

I realize that this might be a little late coming but the steps below have worked for me everytime so if you haven't got it working yet then give them a try.

Step one:

Rip your DVD to your hard disk.

Step two:

Make an empty folder for each movie you intend to encode and give it a name you’ll remember.

Step three:

Open DVD-RB, go to where it says source path at the top, navigate to where your first movie is located just as you would with any standard encode, and select the Video_TS folder.

Step four:

Go to working path on RB and select the folder that you made for your movie and then go to file and choose “save project.” Please note that you’ll have to save each project individually. A window will popup prompting you to save and you‘ll see PROJECT, just add a 1, 2, and 3 to it for each movie in order and then save. It’ll look like this PROJECT1.rbd, PROJECT2.rbd, and PROJECT3.rbd same name but different numbers for each movie.

Step five:

Now that you’ve individually saved your projects you can complete the final steps at the time of your own choosing. Let’s assume that you’re ready to start encoding now.

Open RB and go to file and choose batch processing and a window will open to the right. Click the add button at the bottom of the window and it will take you to the location where you saved your project files. Click on PROJECT1.rbd and choose open and then do the same until you’ve added all the saved projects. When you’re done adding your projects then at the bottom right of the batch processing window choose process and go to bed or work and in the morning or the afternoon your movies will be ready to burn.

[casperse]

I dont think that you have read the whole thread!

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Just to explain the problem in detail.

1) Set settings for each Rebuild project and save them
2) Load the saved project file and under avs options, audiodub(blank clip) is checked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is unchecked.

This is no matter what your settings are?

So if I add the two saved project file to the batch mode the settings will be wrong!
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That means that you maybee think that your batch are working but only with the DEFAULT settings!

But thanks for your input anyway :D

Cheers
Casperse

[Sophoclesdrf]

Yes I did read the whole thread albeit a little quickly but what I was interested in mostly was the variations on setting up batch processing. Having succesfully done close to 100 movies (4 last night)using batch processing I was asked by a member of another forum to write my steps down. Since others might read this thread looking for information on how to do it I thougt it might be of benefit to post them. The steps that I posted are the steps that I use and in that order and with 100% success by not only me but countless others as well.

If you try the steps that I've posted you'll note that:
"audiodub(blank clip) is checked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is unchecked.will be taken care of.



They are posted here:

http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/97052

And here:

http://cgi.tripod.com/321ripforum/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?board=RB_CCE;action=display;num=1096131350;start=0

I posted them and they were reviewed by jdobbs who also confirmed that they work. As of yet no one has told me otherwise.:)

Thank you for your concern and reply. Cheers!

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by casperse
I dont think that you have read the whole thread!

===========================================================
Just to explain the problem in detail.

1) Set settings for each Rebuild project and save them
2) Load the saved project file and under avs options, audiodub(blank clip) is checked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is unchecked.

This is no matter what your settings are?

So if I add the two saved project file to the batch mode the settings will be wrong!
===========================================================

That means that you maybee think that your batch are working but only with the DEFAULT settings!

But thanks for your input anyway :D

Cheers
Casperse

Yup, same problem goes for the "disable interlaced" setting. I usually choose this as I like to encode most pal movies as progressive. But I can't use this option in batch processing as it automaticly disables the function after saving/loading the project.

This is a bug, no matter what people say.

Hmm. by the way I can't se this issue explained on the guides Sophoclesdrf posted?

Quote:
"audiodub(blank clip) is checked and under advanced options, mpeg2source("source",idct=7) is unchecked.

But thanx for the inputs

/Julius

[jdobbs]

This should be fixed now. I just posted v0.64.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This should be fixed now. I just posted v0.64.

Thanx Jdobbs but I have to inform you that it hasn't been all fixed yet. Still the project file does not remember if I enable "disable interlaced" and the same goes for the "steal extras" facility. It saves the log as if the two functions haven't been enabled.

Just tested it

/Julius

[jdobbs]

"Disable Interlaced" is purposefully not saved to an .RBD file, nor is its values saved to the .INI -- it was done because it is not meant to ever be used as a default, and as I recall I'd made that public when it was implmented.

I'll check on "ReduceParm" but I think you may be mistaken.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by jdobbs
"Disable Interlaced" is purposefully not saved to an .RBD file, nor is its values saved to the .INI -- it was done because it is not meant to ever be used as a default, and as I recall I'd made that public when it was implmented.

I'll check on "ReduceParm" but I think you may be mistaken.

Too bad the "disable interlaced" is not saved in the .rdb file as I use it very often, so I guess I can't use batchprocessing function then. Only if I use RBFARM and do the preparing first and then load the crateded .rdb file here. Not a problem for me, only that I have to do the rebuilding afterwards.

But I still believe that the "steal space from extras" is still not saved as well.

/Julius

[jdobbs]

The problem with saving "Disable Interlaced" is that it gets buried in your INI file and peopled forget it was set... then it screws up other titles -- and I get slammed with error reports (which never, by the way mention that the parameter is set).

I've tried to make this clear to everyone -- if you are using this parameter often, you are probably not using DVD-RB correctly. It is a rare exception to the rule that should almost never be set.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by jdobbs
The problem with saving "Disable Interlaced" is that it gets buried in your INI file and peopled forget it was set... then it screws up other titles -- and I get slammed with error reports (which never, by the way mention that the parameter is set).

I've tried to make this clear to everyone -- if you are using this parameter often, you are probably not using DVD-RB correctly. It is a rare exception to the rule that should almost never be set.

Ok, I understand. I just thought that quality on Pal movies got better if I encoded them as progressive, thats all.

I usually run the vob files through dvd2avi and if I don't see the disturbing lines through the picture, I would handle it as progressive.

I guess I'll just stick with the default then.

Thanx for letting me know

By the way, did you check on the "steal from extras" option? Small bug though.

/Julius



/Julius

[Sophoclesdrf]

jdobbs

I'm stunned at the rate with which you release updates, you are truly a hardworking man, and to the good fortune of those of us who enjoy your efforts. Thanks

[jdobbs]

Is this Sophocles of Hurricane fame? I'll probably slow down the releases once I get version 1.00 out (yeah, right -- I think its an obsession). If beta feedback of v0.65's ILVU processing goes well I may be getting close to pulling it out of beta.

I still have to redo the control of "runt" packets. Frankly, though, I'm not sure it has a lot of impact except in rare circumstances (I found one) -- but it is important to stay compliant with specs.

[Sophoclesdrf]

Is this Sophocles of Hurricane fame?

I see that my attempts to disguise myself have failed! (Hmm! Note to self, drop the Sophocles and keep the drf). I thought I would visit D9 and check out its residents. I've met a couple! And thankfully hurricanes are done for now.

[jdobbs]

@eriksen76

You were right about the "Steal Space From Extras" problem. It wasn't the same error as the other parameters (in fact it was a really obscure cause) -- but it definitely wasn't being loaded correctly sometimes from the RBD file. I've fixed it and it will be included in v0.65.