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sunlux
4th October 2004, 23:43
Hello.
How copy oryginal move do Verbatim DVD+R 8,5GB DL (duallayer).
In standard method:
1. Decrypt: DVD Decrypter 2.3 (alse 3.5)
2. In IfoEdit (Get VTS sector and later Region Free).
3. Burn in: Nero Burning 6.3.1.25 (also 6.3.1.25) on DVD+/-RW Pioneer DVR-108
but after this procedure in stacionary DVD Player this disc not play - stoping after first PGC (VIDEO_TS.IFO).
At PC this disc playing correct.
Please help - how do this....
erdoke
5th October 2004, 13:47
Use latest DVDDecrypter to rip the movie to the HD. Choose Mode -> ISO -> Read. Don't forget to check all things for removal at the Setttings tab.
Then change to Mode -> ISO -> Write, select the newly created ISO (or MDS) file and simply start burning.
Of course if you use your burner both for ripping and burning, you have to change the disc between.
TheSeeker
6th October 2004, 15:11
Dont you need to turn on bitsetting or something in the decrypter settings for current DL discs to work in most dvd players?
erdoke
6th October 2004, 15:42
Originally posted by TheSeeker
Dont you need to turn on bitsetting or something in the decrypter settings for current DL discs to work in most dvd players?
Pioneer DVR-108 and DVR-A08 sets it to DVD-ROM automatically when DVD+R9 is burned.
TheSeeker
6th October 2004, 16:59
But dont you want it to be set to dvd-video or something like that to be most compatible with set top players. Maybe not, i really dont know for sure.
erdoke
6th October 2004, 17:09
Originally posted by TheSeeker
But dont you want it to be set to dvd-video or something like that to be most compatible with set top players. Maybe not, i really dont know for sure.
I think that "DVD-ROM" stands for all kinds of pressed DVD.
As Pioneer explains:
...It is known that not all existing DVD-ROM drives and set-top DVD Video players will be able to if at all reliably play DVD+R DL discs. This could especially be the situation with DVD players manufactured over 12 months ago. The only way to know if a player is compatible with DVD+R DL media is to simply try it. In particular check if the player can reliably switch to the second layer and continue playing. It must be remembered that standards for Dual Layer did not exist when most earlier players were designed and manufactured so there was no way a manufacturer could have taken this into account. With the new DVR-108 and DVR-A08XL writers the Pioneer engineers did what they could to maximize compatibility by instigating the following initiative.
Media Support - Book-type issue on +R DL media
+R DL media is tentatively-assigned the book-type field "1110h" which results in very low playback compatibility when the disc is placed into a legacy DVD player or legacy DVD-ROM drive. For "maximum compatibility" with legacy DVD players and DVD-ROM drives the book-type field should be set as "0000h" (DVD-ROM) when the disc is finalised/closed. The DVR-108/DVR-A08XL's firmware will "automatically" set the default book-type field to "0000h" (DVD-ROM), thus eliminating the need for a separate "bit-setting utility" and further increasing the playback compatibility of +R DL discs when used with legacy DVD players and DVD-ROM drives...
TheSeeker
6th October 2004, 18:18
Very cool. Cant wait til the media comes down in price. I know you can get a pretty darn nice LG Electronics burner that does DL discs for only 95 bucks.. But as long as the disc are m ore than a dollar or two a piece its just so expensive.
dannyv
6th October 2004, 19:44
Originally posted by TheSeeker
But as long as the disc are m ore than a dollar or two a piece its just so expensive.
At $15.00 a pop for DL media it makes more sence to go out and buy a new original retail DVD if it gets scratched up by the kids:) But when they do reach a $1 a pop that will be sweet.
TheSeeker
6th October 2004, 20:59
No kidding, and when they go down to that price range then all these transcoders and encoders are almost obsolete... until hd dvd or blu ray discs come out. Whichever one wins out to become the new dvd standard.
EDIT: What I want to know is how the heck they plan on filling the 30 plus gb that you can fit on standard hd dvd/blu ray discs.... i mean there is only so high you can jack the bitrate up. Or i suppose at that time they will be using totally uncompressed video. Wouldnt that be something?? to have all movies with completely uncompressed source video. that will be cool... its either that or jam pack way more extras than anyone will ever watch onto the disc to fill up the extra space.
sunlux
6th October 2004, 23:18
Maybe VTS sectors on 2-Layer (second-Layer) is incorrect.
(IfoEdit modify VTS sectors only do 4,7GB.... (1-Layer (first-Layer))
Becouse DVD (Master of The Ring - Return of King) copy correcly
(Ther is only one VTS_01 and no next VTS_... on second layer).
On next testing move is more VTS_... (1-4) and this move not start.
erdoke
7th October 2004, 07:18
Originally posted by TheSeeker
No kidding, and when they go down to that price range then all these transcoders and encoders are almost obsolete... until hd dvd or blu ray discs come out. Whichever one wins out to become the new dvd standard.
EDIT: What I want to know is how the heck they plan on filling the 30 plus gb that you can fit on standard hd dvd/blu ray discs.... i mean there is only so high you can jack the bitrate up. Or i suppose at that time they will be using totally uncompressed video. Wouldnt that be something?? to have all movies with completely uncompressed source video. that will be cool... its either that or jam pack way more extras than anyone will ever watch onto the disc to fill up the extra space.
My magic price is 4 $ concerning DL media. THen I will do full backups of large movies on DL, smaller movies to DVD5.
I guess that the capacity of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs will be around 20-26 GB. Don't forget that the HD-TV resulution itself will consume a lot more space without quality gain.
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