Star Wars problems (Subject edited)

[eriksen76]

I encoded Star Wars Episode 4 today and now it both freezes and audio drop outs. Especially in the beginning.

Sorry to say it but I think I will soon give up on DVDRB as it still have some bugs no matter which settings I use. Never as worse as today though. Its in the beginning where the large space ship comes, it acts as if it was a badly burned disc!

Too bad, as its a pretty cool program.

/Julius

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by geffroman
Just did Star Wars V and VI with Rebuilder 61 and even used RBFarm to complicate matters and both run flawlessly. So many people have done so many movies with perfection on so many differet machines perfectly that it has to be your setup. Trying reinstalling Rebuilder files from scratch and reread and follow instructions to the letter including making sure you have the exact files recommended for Avisynth and pluggin, EECle, etc etc...

I did everything as written.... Please give a complete list of your setup. And then I will try again.

Thanx

/Julius

[jdobbs]

Sorry if I'm repeating questions -- but I have a lot of irons in the fire... are you using QuEnc or CCE? The only operational changes to v0.62 were related to QuEnc.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Sorry if I'm repeating questions -- but I have a lot of irons in the fire... are you using QuEnc or CCE? The only operational changes to v0.62 were related to QuEnc.

CCE

/Julius

[Oldeman]

I just did a NTSC movie with DVD-RB v.62 and Quenc .54 using both 1 and 2 pass encoding, both play without audio dropouts on my Toshiba players. They never played without audio dropouts on these high end Toshibas before version .60b.

I think that the particular movie may also have some effect on these player sensitive audio dropouts. Its a strange problem.

At any rate things are looking a lot better.
Thanks and Congratulations...:)

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by eriksen76
I encoded Star Wars Episode 4 today and now it both freezes and audio drop outs. Especially in the beginning.

Sorry to say it but I think I will soon give up on DVDRB as it still have some bugs no matter which settings I use. Never as worse as today though. Its in the beginning where the large space ship comes, it acts as if it was a badly burned disc!

Too bad, as its a pretty cool program.

/Julius

I think you don't know how to use DVD-RB or you aren't able just to setup it correctly, 'cause I'm doing lots of backups with it ** F L A W L E S S L Y **.

[Fishman0919]

I get the same error at the very beginning of Star Wars E4 when the big ship comes in chasing the small ship with QuEnc .51 - .54, CCE Basic v2.69.01.09 and CCE SP v2.50 and SP 2.67.00.23.... with Avisynth 2.54 or 2.55 .... DVD-RB .61-.62



just did a check and both the avs and m2v have the error in them
call a friend and he has the same problem at the same spot.

no problem with any of the other disc's in the set...sorry I am in R1 ntsc

I don't get any drop in audio but it's more like a flash/skip and it's not on the Org. disc

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by eriksen76
CCE

/Julius Then your statement "Version 0.62 even worse" is an impossibility. Sorry, but facts are facts.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
I think you don't know how to use DVD-RB or you aren't able just to setup it correctly, 'cause I'm doing lots of backups with it ** F L A W L E S S L Y **.

Actually I'm doing exactly as written in the various guides. Im getting updated each day with info from this forum. And acually I'm watching a Freddy Kruger movie right now. Also reauthored with DVDRB. With no problems at all. But please read what the guy with a post previous to this also said about Star Wars 4. Doesn't seem like I'm the only one having probs.

I'm glad someone has it going properly, hopefully the same will happen to me soon.

/Julius

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fishman0919
I get the same error at the very beginning of Star Wars E4 when the big ship comes in chasing the small ship with QuEnc .51 - .54, CCE Basic v2.69.01.09 and CCE SP v2.50 and SP 2.67.00.23.... with Avisynth 2.54 or 2.55 .... DVD-RB .61-.62



just did a check and both the avs and m2v have the error in them
call a friend and he has the same problem at the same spot.

no problem with any of the other disc's in the set...sorry I am in R1 ntsc

I don't get any drop in audio but it's more like a flash/skip and it's not on the Org. disc I bought the set online and they haven't been delivered yet. When I get them I'll run through and see what I get.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Then your statement "Version 0.63 even worse" is an impossibility. Sorry, but facts are facts.

No doubt youre right, you're the expert here. Still strange that Freddy Krueger movie works flawlessly but Star Wars 4, problems.

Apart from all other movies with probs, this one has errors in my PS2 as well

/Julius

[bobwillis]

The star wars trilogy region2 discs are multi-angle; therefore not supported by DVD-RB. Are yours discs not multi-angle?

Regards,
Bob

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by bobwillis
The star wars trilogy region2 discs are multi-angle; therefore not supported by DVD-RB. Are yours discs not multi-angle?

Regards,
Bob

I prepared them for RB, by removing the angles

/Julius

[bobwillis]

Using DVD-Decrypter? This additional 'processing' could be the cause of the problem. The plot thickens....

[geffroman]

My Star Wars sucesses were done by removing Angle pointers and deleting VoB IDs for the unwanted angles with IFOEdit Ver 095 and had NO issues... I don't like to destroy data with my RIPping tools... I find better success DVDDecrypting everything to disc unaltered and then IFOEdit the data...

I think bobwillis hit it on the head... angle management is critical...

[nwg]

Its in the beginning where the large space ship comes, it acts as if it was a badly burned disc!

That is an angle on the R2 (which there is four of them). I have read elswhere that there are two angles on the R1. It is to translate the yellow text at the beginning and ends with that spaceship.

I have done all three film fine with DVD-RB. I reauthored each film using DVDShrink and only selected title 1 as the angle.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by nwg
That is an angle on the R2 (which there is four of them). I have read elswhere that there are two angles on the R1. It is to translate the yellow text at the beginning and ends with that spaceship.

I have done all three film fine with DVD-RB. I reauthored each film using DVDShrink and only selected title 1 as the angle.

You're right, but I did remove the angles the ifoedit way

/Julius

[eriksen76]

Maby this can help you, helping me with the settings:

[Paths]
CCENEW=D:\cce\Cinema Craft Encoder Sp 2.67.00.23\EclCCE_1.7b\EclCCE.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Programmer\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
DECOMB=C:\Documents and Settings\Jacob Eriksen\Skrivebord\DVD Rebuilder\Decomb521.dll
Source=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\JACOB ERIKSEN\SKRIVEBORD\STARTESTER\
Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\JACOB ERIKSEN\SKRIVEBORD\
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
AudioDub=0
CCE=1
OneClick=1
ReduceOpt=0
Completed=2
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=10
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=5

Does things look ok
I'm using avisynth 2.55
This is what I have in my plugin directory:

colors_rgb.avsi
DirectShowSource.dll
TCPDeliver.dll
MPEG2Dec3dg.dll (24. april 2004, 09:03:24)
(the first 3 was automaticly installed by avisynth)

Then I have a directoy called dvdrebulder with the following files:

Rebuilder
rebuilder (config info)
Decomb521.dll

My setup:

FILE: None activated
MODE: CCE, Verbose Status Window, One Click mode, Automaticly Assain
Cell Bitrates.
Options AVS: Convert to YUY2 activated
Audio Dub deactivated
Expert Settings: None activated!

CCE Options: CCE SP
CCE Customized settings: Bios:10, Quality Spec: 16 Passes: 5

Setup: Links to CCE 2.67.00.23 through EclSSE 1.7b. (I have tryed the retail version as well, but same probs)

Path to MPEG2Dec3dg.dll written and a ticker made in the box (Don't know if that is nessesary.

And finally path to decomb.

Any wrong settings??

[robot1]

Originally posted by eriksen76
Setup: Links to CCE 2.67.00.23 through EclSSE 1.7b. (I have tryed the retail version as well, but same probs)

Any wrong settings?? This is not the latest version of EclCCE.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by robot1
This is not the latest version of EclCCE.

I tryed encoding with the retail version but same problem.

/Julius

[darkpepe]

There is no such thing as a "retail" version of EclCCE.

You are mixing things up.

One thing you could try: Reauthor the DVD without compression using DVD Shrink, and the reencode with DVD RB

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by darkpepe
There is no such thing as a "retail" version of EclCCE.

You are mixing things up.

One thing you could try: Reauthor the DVD without compression using DVD Shrink, and the reencode with DVD RB

Sorry I ment retail version of CCE

/Julius

[TuRiSOft]

My suggestions:
1 - get the latest EclCCE version here (http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/eclcce.zip) ;
2 - Try to play the untouched (virgin) disk in PowerDVD , right click on the interested part , go to "angle" and keep note of what angle is checked ;
3 - remove angles w/DVDShrink (easier) or the IFOEdit mode or the DVDReMake mode ;
4 - Play the re-Authored Vobs in PowerDVD and see what happens (if all gone right the right-click|"Angle" will be not-selectable ) ;
5 - Try DVD-RB on this material ( in case of doubt try ReJig mode-1 Click then burn on RW ).

Hope to be helpful.

Bye!!!!

[DD51]

It amazes me that it's never mentioned that the problem most people may be experiencing "may be" related to the DVD -/+R media that they are using.
That's just my opinion.

I personally have never experienced any problems with sound nor image when making backups, but then again I ALWAYS use Ritek media.
Maybe that's why:rolleyes:

Hope you find and correct your problem.
Good luck and keep us posted.

Regards,

[Fishman0919]

The problem I had with Star Wars E4 was not a bad media problem, the problem I got was at the angle change and it was in the avs and m2v... I've tried avisynth 2.54 and 2.55 and get the same flash/skip. So it just could be a authoring error in the Org. disc or maybe a bad run of discs.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by TuRiSOft
My suggestions:
1 - get the latest EclCCE version here (http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/eclcce.zip) ;
2 - Try to play the untouched (virgin) disk in PowerDVD , right click on the interested part , go to "angle" and keep note of what angle is checked ;
3 - remove angles w/DVDShrink (easier) or the IFOEdit mode or the DVDReMake mode ;
4 - Play the re-Authored Vobs in PowerDVD and see what happens (if all gone right the right-click|"Angle" will be not-selectable ) ;
5 - Try DVD-RB on this material ( in case of doubt try ReJig mode-1 Click then burn on RW ).

Hope to be helpful.

Bye!!!!

Is it possible to remove angles with dvdshrink in full disc copy?

How?

By the way, the movie (with ifoedit removed angles) plays fine with powerdvd on my computer.

/Julius

[pg55555]

Eriksen76 and Fishman0919

Here is a typical example of people saying there is a problem with RB, asking for help, and no providing relevant information until the 5th or 6th post.

You both are experiencing the problem after having pre-processed the movie in order to eliminate the multiangle, which explicitely RB does not support up to now. It makes jdobbs expend time trying to figure out what it is wrong with RB, when the most probable cause is a bad source caused by the pre-processing, no RB.

After been using RB for several months I'm really fascinated how it simplifies the proces of producing high quality encodings with CCE without the fuss of the muxing and remuxing and re-authoring, taking into account the great diversity of inputs (Original DVD : NTSC/PAL, Region 1,2,3,4,..., progressive, interlaced, ). All this inputs have at lest something in comon: They have to run in a stand alone player.

When you pre-process the DVD (except for Decrypting) you are changing something. So the probability of something going wrong do increase. It is a demostration of RB versatility and robustness it handle most of the things we do without a glitch. But I think we do have the right to claim it "does not work" because it do not process adequatelly my pre-processed movie, something it was never intended to do.

The correct way should have been to ask for help for backing up Star Wars with RB, taking into account it is a multiangle film, and that the method I use to get ride of the extra angles seems to be causing problems

My humble opinion.

Pablo

[eriksen76]

You might be right Pablo, maby it does affect the RB input if we change something before reauthering. I just thought that DVDRB acted like other programs.

Sorry if my posts / questions caused some problems, you are all doing a great job

Have a nice vecation.

/Julius

[Fishman0919]

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with RB, I'm saying that myself and a friend are having what sounds like the same problem as eriksen76 in the same spot and I don't think it has anything thing to do with RB.... maybe the disc maybe whatever

sorry if I sounded like I was blaming RB but I got the same Flash/skip with DVD2SVCD so I think it's the disc but who knows, it's a very minor skip and you really can't tell to much because you think it's a laser flash or something but not being on the Org. disc....well who knows.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by Fishman0919
I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with RB, I'm saying that myself and a friend are having what sounds like the same problem as eriksen76 in the same spot and I don't think it has anything thing to do with RB.... maybe the disc maybe whatever

sorry if I sounded like I was blaming RB but I got the same Flash/skip with DVD2SVCD so I think it's the disc but who knows, it's a very minor skip and you really can't tell to much because you think it's a laser flash or something but not being on the Org. disc....well who knows.

Not a minor skip on my version. Pretty bad actually. Then I thought I would watch the hole movie, but sound is flickering like crazy though out the movie. Im wathing an other movie now with no probs, so I guess your right.

Actually I just read that the group "FOA" just released the 3 movies, and that they claim that they are the most problematic movies that they have ever made. Sounds familiar.....

/Julius

[pg55555]

Eriksen76

Sorry if I was rude.

It is just I feel bad for jdoobs as he has been chasing this audio dropouts issue, which has been eluding him. And from the thread it is apparent to me your problem is related to the angle stripping, a pre-processing he was not aware off.

Y just finidhed my first angle stripping with IFOEdit and process with RB (The Lion King) and have yet to check the burned disc in a standalone. But I know now if there is a problem, I would not blame RB.

Fishman0919

You are wright. You were not saying there was a problem with RB. But your posting increased the "sense of urgency" of Eriksen post, as it indicated the issue was not isolated (and probably a setup problem).

The Doom9 commutity has been very helpfull for me and I'm trying to collaborate with my "grain of sand" . As I'm not such a knowledgeable person, my collaboration goes more in the "be more explicit / give more details" direction:D

Pablo

[darkpepe]

Is it possible to remove angles with dvdshrink in full disc copy?
No, just in reauthor mode.

[dannyv]

Originally posted by eriksen76
I encoded Star Wars Episode 4 today and now it both freezes and audio drop outs. Especially in the beginning.
/Julius

I just confirmed your problem Julis. I have exactly the same problem you do on starwars episode 4. It starts out ever so slighty with audio dropouts at the beginning by the time I gets to chapter 4 the audio drops out every second or so and the video pauses and then continues coinsiding with the audio dropout. I removed the multiangle with shrink just as you did. I'm using rebuilder .61 and cce 2.50 sp retail. I've had audio dropouts with other movies as well which were mentioned in other threads. I've burned this on to a ritek dvd-rw. And I'm using the latest avisyth and eclcce. About 1/3 of the movies I've done with rebuilder seem to have an audio drop out problem but star wars 4 was the worst.

[Faust2]

Originally posted by eriksen76
Is it possible to remove angles with dvdshrink in full disc copy?

How?


I did SW Ep 2 and removed Angles with DVDShrink 3.1 successfully, but I recommend really "movie only", so reauthor mode and just one titleset with the selected angle. I never had any problems with this method. I think doing it with Ifoedit alone works also, but AFAIK it is known to have some bugs...

OTOH, if your prob is like desribed by dannyv, (growing throughout the movie), I doubt it being related only with angle removal.

Maybe you give this thread? (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82820) a try?

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by Faust2
I did SW Ep 2 and removed Angles with DVDShrink 3.1 successfully, but I recommend really "movie only", so reauthor mode and just one titleset with the selected angle. I never had any problems with this method. I think doing it with Ifoedit alone works also, but AFAIK it is known to have some bugs...

OTOH, if your prob is like desribed by dannyv, (growing throughout the movie), I doubt it being related only with angle removal.

Maybe you give this thread? (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82820) a try?

I did the same as you with dvdshrink 3.2 and made SW EP4 successfully with manually CCE encoding. Afterwards I re-authered with Dvdmaestro. Works like a charm

/Julius

[borgraf]

I've never had any dropouts so far, so i'm curious how my overnight backup of Star Wars ep 4 will turn out. Are any of you who experience dropouts on SW 4 backing up the PAL nordic release? (subs: eng, swe, no, dk, fin)

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by borgraf
I've never had any dropouts so far, so i'm curious how my overnight backup of Star Wars ep 4 will turn out. Are any of you who experience dropouts on SW 4 backing up the PAL nordic release? (subs: eng, swe, no, dk, fin)

Yup thats the one I've been having probs with

/Julius

[borgraf]

Well, I got the same problems with my IFOEdit preprocessed SW 4 as mentioned by several others. Video freezing on two places (both at a vobid change), a few audio glitches and the vulen prog reported a large number of "errors" that weren't present in the source files. I then tried it several different ways, including some of the tweaks mentioned in various threads like setting max-min bitrate and fix_gop_length, but it was still freezing.

But I guess running a preprocessed dvd through dvd-rb is like running a toaster through a carwash - what comes out the other end might work, but don't count on it. I'll leave the issue to people who have the problems on films that haven't been preprocessed - atleast until I run into one myself.

OT: I ran the full disc through shrink 3.2 with all quality features for comparison, removed only the 2.0 track and to my surprise the result was so good i'm keeping it and moving on :)

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by borgraf
Well, I got the same problems with my IFOEdit preprocessed SW 4 as mentioned by several others. Video freezing on two places (both at a vobid change), a few audio glitches and the vulen prog reported a large number of "errors" that weren't present in the source files. I then tried it several different ways, including some of the tweaks mentioned in various threads like setting max-min bitrate and fix_gop_length, but it was still freezing.

But I guess running a preprocessed dvd through dvd-rb is like running a toaster through a carwash - what comes out the other end might work, but don't count on it. I'll leave the issue to people who have the problems on films that haven't been preprocessed - atleast until I run into one myself.

OT: I ran the full disc through shrink 3.2 with all quality features for comparison, removed only the 2.0 track and to my surprise the result was so good i'm keeping it and moving on :)

I am trying for the last time by ripping with dvdecrypter in file mode and selecting angle 2 only. Then I ran it though ifoedit 0.96 keeping angle 2 only (if not done it would not import in dvdrb) keeping all vob id's. It kept some different ones compared with only stripping with ifoedit. But file sizes are exactly the same.

Im running the test now to see if this helps.

/Julius

[JawZ]

well let me just say that my luck must be really good because I had read about DVD-RB and figured I'd give it a try. The first movie I tried it on was, would ya' believe, STAR WARS Epsisode IV - A New Hope. I coudln't believe after I was finished with everything I found this post saying people were having audio sync issues among other issues with this movie. I figured that must REALLY be bad luck to choose that movie of all movies. When I was done I was expecting to have the same issues, but low and behold I didn't see ANY of the issues others have mentioned here. At the beginning where the bigger space ship is chasing the smaller one the audio was perfectly in sync. I then went chapter by chapter with the subs ON and the audio AND SUBS were in perfect sync in every single chapter!

I've got the Region I, NTSC version BTW. Now I know some others said there were problems at vob id changes, so if someone would post the time stamp or exactly where the chapter where the issues were, I'll check mine for those issues as well. But As of right now everything seems PERFECT. Oh, I also used IFOEDIT to get rid of angle 2 AND 3, Keeping Angle 1. So i've seemed to do the same steps others have done but my results seem perfectly fine. I only have one dvd player to try this on and that's my Pioneer. If others have more issues and can point to specific points I'll check my disc to see if I have the same issues and i'll hook up my cheapo Apex to see if it has any problems that the Pioneer may be correcting.

But for now all seems good. I'l a little reluctant to backup EP5 AND 6 right now with the structures of those being the same and all this talk about these sync issues and audio drops.

So far this program seems more then amazing and miraculously finished the entire job in about 3 hours. Using the big 3, CCE would of taken around 5 hours at a 3 pass VBR for this movie, so i'd love to know how DVD-RB was able to accomplish this entire task so fast and with super quality at that.

[nwg]

What DVD player do you have? The problems (it also happens with the R2 DVD - which has more angles than the R1) seems to depend on what DVD player you have.

[dannyv]

I just did star trek original series disk one and have 2 audio drop outs. My settings are the same as my original post in this thread. It seems that .61 is giving me audio dropouts on everything I do. .56 seemed to be better. I have now tried this on 2 seperate machines.

the one in my tag line below and an amd 2700 which is running rb .59. If theres anything anyone wants me to try to help eliminate this problem let me know. I think rebuilder is an excellent program but I'm going to stick with dvd shrink until this is fixed.

I have not tried .62 because from what I've read its worse then what I'm using.

[eriksen76]

Originally posted by nwg
What DVD player do you have? The problems (it also happens with the R2 DVD - which has more angles than the R1) seems to depend on what DVD player you have.

My versions were tested on my Jvc and Pioneer standalone. The problems were not as big as on my PS2 but still there.

All my testing was based on the Pal version with 4 or 5 angles. Maby that caused the problems compared with the NTSC version. So far I believe that I've tryed everything. I even borrowed a brand new labtop and installed everything from the guide from scratch.

Same problems.

I made a movie only on part IV and it works on all standalones. Congrats to those who got it 100% functional.

/Julius

[jdobbs]

I have not tried .62 because from what I've read its worse then what I'm using. That's bullsh*t obviously from someone who doesn't know any better. While it probably won't make it any better unless you are using QuEnc -- it certainly couldn't make it worse.

Too many expert opinions, too few experts. ;)

If there is anyone out there who is getting audio dropouts on NTSC sources -- please give me the name of the disc so I can try it.

[pg55555]

I use IFOedit 0.96 to get rid of angles 1 (English) and 3 (portuguese, keeping 2 (Spanish)
The first time I keep all the VOBIDs, but then each angle kept playing one after the other a few frames each: The only diffference between the diferent angles I'm aware of are at ghe beginning, when the short writen introduction runs (each angle has it writen in its language)

So a run the angle stripping process again, getting rid of the VOBIDs with the angles 1 and 3. All seemed OK, no audio dropouts neither problems with sync. But, when watching in my standalone (a very cheap Precision brand), I experienced jumps in the video. Not always, no very frequently, but enough to turn the backup un-operative.

I will try keeping angle 1, as the reported successes seem with keeping the first angle

RB 0.62 - Avisynth 23.54 - CCE 2.66 Trial

[robot1]

Originally posted by pg55555

I will try keeping angle 1, as the reported successes seem with keeping the first angle
Or you can wait a few days, as jdobbs has already begun coding multiple-angles support.

[redsvt]

Well this is my first post to doom 9. Let me say I have ripped 100's of dvd's, using various combos of dvdrb+cce and DVDRMPRO . My first issues began with Kill Bill Vol 2. All I had to do was remove any cell use DVDRB and the disc would chapter skim, final conclusion is that is was my sony ns725p player, I have two. Move forward to Star Wars IV, I removed the multi angles in DVDRM then encoded using DVDRB. Got to the end of cell 3, rebels being chased by the empire and it freezes. If you press the x2 key on the remote, it steps back and plays thru the problem cell. Now by removing the same angles on Empire V and Jedi VI I get the same cell freeze issue. On Jedi the audio drops out all thru the disc, the other two are OK. Now if I strip the angles the recode with Nero Recode, all the discs play fine. All discs have been played on both my Sony standalone units. All the DVDRB+CCE freeze. A side note, the bonus disc using DVDRB+CCE has horrible quality after about 50 minutes of the main documentary. Regardless of what is going on I still donate the the Jdobbs fund :)Great program.

Star Wars is NTSC.

Now when I attach my Microtek CDRW DVD player, ALL DISCS PLAY!!!!!!
With the exception of Jedi, the audio still drops. Ended up using DVDRMPRO, stripping angles, and Nero Recode. At this moment, I am encoding a fresh rip using DVDRB+CCE. I have ripped 100's of discs using DVDRB+CCE and DVDRMPRO and never had any issues since Kill Bill Vol 2 and these Star Wars discs.

DVDRB 0.62
CCE 2.69.1.10
Avisynth 2.5.5.0
DVD Decrypter 3.5.10
Nero Recode latest version

Media=Ritek G04
Verbatim Datalife

[geffroman]

Originally posted by redsvt
All the DVDRB+CCE freeze. A side note, the bonus disc using DVDRB+CCE has horrible quality after about 50 minutes of the main documentary. Regardless of what is going on I still donate the the Jdobbs fund :)Great program. There is actually a thread dedicated to your problem... (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82012)

[dannyv]

Not sure if this will help but my sa is a panasonic dvd-rp56 progressive scan. My DVD's are ntsc region 1. The copies play fine with powerdvd but not in the sa.

[wiki]

I agree with jdobbs, too many people out there just keep bitching when this guy has one hell of a program. It may not be perfect right now but if you got a problem with it, use dvd shrink or spend $8 a piece on Dual Layer discs.

One thing I think is pretty damn sad is how so many people "claim" this DVD-RB is having so many issues with audio drop outs, particulary in Star Wars Ep IV, but not a SINGLE person has stated a scene or time stamp SPECIFIC to the problem they're having. Seems to me like they just wanna bitch and complain and not even have the respect to congratulate the author on an amazing program and offer "specifics" to help the development more. Those people i'm betting are the same that never donate a single penny either.

I'm not doubting some are having audio sync or dropout issues, but how about stating EXACTLY where the points as opposed to just bitching which accomplishes nothing but getting people pissed.