Rebuilder .58 to .59 now gives oversized output

[jensenca]

First off wonderful program, noting compares to it.

I had just upgraded rebuilder from .58 to .59. Now every video I try to rebuild is oversized. I have tried deleting the INI file and starting over. Re ripping the DVD, I am at a lost,. I found a copy of rebuilder .56 and it seams to be fine with that version. I just did 3 disk without any errors or oversizes. .59 will not work for me. Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

The video_ts folder is 8.71 GB, and I am at a lost of why
Original disk is 7.8 GB

Rebuilder ver .59
CCE = ver 2, 67, 0, 23
MPEG2Dec3dg.dll = ver 1.01.0
Decomb521.dll
AviSynth 2.5
Daemon tools

Computer
Amd 3200 160 Gig 512 Ram
DVD hp 300c (FW 7H29)
XP home SP2

Disc = Star Trek Voyager Season 3 disk 1 and 2

I have all the log files I can post, this is my rebuilder ini

[Paths]
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
Source=L:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\DVD_ISO\REBUILDER WORKING\VOYAGER_S3D1\
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Version\ccesp.exe
[Options]
LoadPlugin=1
CCE=1
LogFile=0
Completed=1
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2

[TheSeeker]

I have pretty much the same setup as you as far as program versions go, and my output seems fine every time. The only difference is that Im using the newest beta version of AVISYNTH. You could try updating that. Not sure if it is the culprit but I dont think this is a rebuilder issue. Unless it occurs only with certain movies.

[jdobbs]

@TheSeeker

Are you also using CCE version 2.67.00.23? It's may be possible that the INI changes to CCE took effect after 2.67.00.23 (I've made the assumption it started with 2.67.xx.xx) -- I know it is in effect on 2.67.00.27 -- any input would be helpful.

[TheSeeker]

I am using CCE 2.67.00.23. I have never ever gotten oversized or undersized output. The only problem I have ever had with Rebuilder was the whole encoding takes only seconds issue but the new avisynth beta fixed that. so that was really an avisynth issue I think. Maybe some of the fixes you put in RB for 2.67.00.27 compatibility are causing these oversizes? Is that possible? I think maybe the changes to the INI didnt take place until the .27 version. But I really have no basis for such a comment... just a hunch.

EDIT: @Jdobbs

I just noticed that it seems none of the people that have said they are getting oversized output are using eccle. I dont know if this should matter, but its just something I noticed. At least according to the program paths they posted they arent using it.

[jdobbs]

It definitely matters. The new changes won't take effect with ECLCCE.EXE. But, ECLCCE won't work correctly with the retail version of SP 2.67.00.27 (not sure about others).

[jensenca]

I just tried to update AVISYNTH. still same problum. seams there are to many files in the video_ts folder. likes it adding part of the origal ones. I am not all that sure. put back rebuilder .56 and all is fine. untill I can look deaper at this i'll leave well enough alone. thank you for your help.

[jdobbs]

It isn't related to AVISYNTH. I'm pretty confident that the new video_type and parameters must not be associated with all versions of 2.67.xx.xx SP retail. So earlier versions, when they get the new "video_type=16" parameter are encoding using the wrong video_type. What I don't know is at what point in the 2.67 versions it changed.

[jensenca]

The about info reads
CCE SP
SDK Version 2.67 CCE (built at 18:45:37 nov 13

file version is 2, 67, 0, 23

if there is any log files or info i can give i would be happy too.

[jdobbs]

Thanks. In your case I am positive this is your problem. I'll post an update tomorrow to fix it.

[erdoke]

I too got an oversized result when backing up The Rock.
I'm not sure what was the problem, there are some alternatives. I changed to RB 0.59 and to CCE SP 2.67.00.27 Retail (no EclCCE). I heavily tweaked the output size with RB-Opt 0.14. 1+5 passes of CCE (long action movie with two audio streams).
The result was a 5300+ MB large movie.
Latest Retail or RB-Opt tweaking or latest RB can be blamed?
Or just myself? :D

[jdobbs]

Do it without RB-Opt and see what size you get.

[erdoke]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Do it without RB-Opt and see what size you get.

I've done it again with RB-Opt and it was 4478,9 MB.:cool:
The only difference was that I left out a couple of small extras at the end of the DVD (hided with DVDReMake). Of course the other difference was the second round itself (because I used the same working folder), but I think that emptied the folder before starting the first try.