XCD problem

[Loul]

I don't get it :confused:

Well I bought yesterday a NEC 3500AG burner (DVD+RL) which is also neat because it can burn CDs up to 48X and I had a lot of media left :)

Any way I burned that ogm file (along with the subs in mode 1) as a XCD using the usual m2cdmgui and burning it with fireburner.
When I tried to read it well no file showed up in the windows explorer :confused:
I took the CD and put it in my ASUS DVD reader drive and guess what the files popped up.
I took some old XCD to check and that was it : my dvd burner can't read those XCD, it finds no file at all :(

Is this normal ?
Is there a way to fix that ?

Thanks for helping :)

[bond]

plz dont discuss problems in the sticky

thread splitted

[alexnoe]

There are indeed a few drives which can't read X-CDs. Maybe a list of drives known not to read them should be added to the FAQ :|

[bond]

afaik there is a list of such drives coming with m2 cd maker

[alexnoe]

Yeah...and how old is the latest version of that list? :D

[Kika]

XCD and 48x burning? That's never a good Idea...

[alexnoe]

Yes, it is:
Taiyo Yuden 48x @ 52x in Plextor premium:
http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~noe/PlexTools_Prof_Scans/Taiyo%20Yuden/CD-R_48x/Burn_PP_52x/Cx_gr.gif

You are a Princo-Intenso-Platinum-crap-disc-user, right?

[Kika]

You are a Princo-Intenso-Platinum-crap-disc-user, right?

Only in my "early days". ;)

[alexnoe]

Then why do you suggest not to write XCDs at 48x?

[Kika]

Then why do you suggest not to write XCDs at 48x?

Simple... i don't know the brand of CDs which are used by Loul... And i guess you know that there are a lot of CD-Rs and Burners which are not secure at 48x on XCDs.

[alexnoe]

A lot of CD-R are not secure at any speed for anything...

[jorel]

Originally posted by alexnoe
A lot of CD-R are not secure at any speed for anything...
you're right here alexnoe, i can swear!
then, is better Loul burn his XCDs in low speed, right?
:p
in the end, what you recommend ? your "decision" and point of view seems ....instables!

[alexnoe]

I recommend to use *real* CD-R media, like Taiyo Yuden...

[jorel]

seems a good media choosed with good taste. i don't know that medias, i only read about it!

as Loul only post his problem and the brand/model of his burner, we need more informations cos his old XCds can't be read in the new burner, and i think that his old XCDs are perfects. then, it don't seems media problems!
of course it's abnormal....waiting more informations,still a mystery ! :confused:

[Loul]

Well of course it's not a media problem.

I only use Verbatim CD-Rs and if I burned my last XCD at 48X it's because the media was a quality one, certified for that speed.

My old XCDs were burnt between 16X and 24X on my old liteon CD burner depending on the Verbatims (Crystal Azos were not recognised even by the latest firmware) and they are not better recognised.

Well as for the subject, I'm kind of surprised that a brand new drive doesn't read XCDs whereas old one could with no trouble.

I'm wondering if that is common (have you experienced the same thing ?), if there's a potential fix (firmware ? new XCD filter ?) or if is it related to physical limitation.

Anyway I'm quite happy to see people concerned ;)

[jorel]

good informations with tests : http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=17349

firmware to NEC ND-3500A
see that this firmware to download in the link is newer.
NEC ND-3500A 2.06 RPC1 and Rip Speed Firmware
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1904

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my LG 4081B never give me problems.