DVD2AVI choppy Blur/Interlacing!!!

[Whizkid28]

I said all this in the DVD2AVI Faq Sticky. I dont want to take over that thread..so I made this seperate thread.

I have been useing DVD2AVI for afew months now, only cause this is how I learned to Rip my DVD's.

Step 1 - Use SmartRipper 2.41 to rip the VOB's
Step 2 - Use DVD2AVI 1.77.3 to make a DV2 file and make WAV file
Step 3 - Use TMPGEnc to encode the DV2 and WAV to MPEG or AVI

I been doing that for months. Ever since I been doing it that way, I noticed Choppy Motion Blur when I use DVD2AVI's DV2 file.

Here's a comparision from a DV2 file ripped with SmartRipper 2.41 and DVD2AVI 1.77.3

http://www.cnw.com/~josh/DV2%20Compare.jpg

I really do not like this choppy motion blur!!!

Is there any way to fix this? TMPGEnc cant use the DV2 file from SmartRipper, it says wrong file version or something.

I tried DVD2AVI 1.86, same choppy blur!

[Whizkid28]

Originally posted by Cyberia
Ok first, let me update your procedures:

Step 1 - Use SmartRipper 2.41 to rip the VOB's
----OK so far, but NEVER create or use the D2V from SmartRipper.

Step 2 - Use DVD2AVI 1.77.3 to make a DV2 file and make WAV file
----Use DGMPGDec, which is just the latest DVD2AVI with a new name.

Step 3 - Use TMPGEnc to encode the DV2 and WAV to MPEG or AVI
----This is fine for encoding MPG, but for AVI you should really be using VirtualDubMod+Xvid. (Possibly consider AC3 audio)

Now onto your problem, that is a strange image. I am not sure how you are getting blended fields out of the D2V file. There shouldn't be any way to do that with DVD2AVI. Is every frame interlaced like the bottom image or just every 5th or so? Are any frames interlaced in the first D2V?

Try opening the SmartRipper d2v project in the DVD2AVI gui. Then check the Video settings compared to the one you created.
Whats wrong with the DV2 from SmartRipper, thats the one that doesnt have the choppy Blur.

I'll look into this DGMPGDec.

I have VirtualDub...have not used VirtualDubMod yet. I dont know how to do the AC3 audio stuff yet. I am using WAV's so I can edit them, and amplify the volume...why are DVD's SO QUIET?

Blended Fields, whats that?...forgive me I am still a noob/beginer to this DVD Rip/Encode. As for the interlaced frames, yes every 4th and 5th frame is interlaced, then 3 "clean" frames. The 1st DV2 made from SmartRipper there is no Interlacing/choppy blur. I used Media Player Classic to play the DV2 files.

Hmm...I never thought of opening the SmartRipper DV2 file in DVD2AVI. I have opened the DV2 files, side-by-side with Notepad. They are practily the same, but the DV2 has different video stuff I guess.

http://www.cnw.com/~josh/SmartRipper_DV2_File.d2v

http://www.cnw.com/~josh/DVD2AVI_DV2_File.d2v

[Whizkid28]

I just tried ImTOO DVD Ripper to encode a Divx.

The opening sequence of Sopranos is all good, looks clean and smooth. Once it gets into the actual episode...it gets all jerky!!

I would love to get all this Ripping and Encoding down..so I can make some sweet Divx/Xvid/mk4..whatever files of my DVD's!!!

Like afew weeks ago, I got Finding Nemo, in MK4 format (witch I have no idea what it is). It had like 4 different Language Audio tracks, 3 different subtitles..and looked FLAWLESS!!! and was under 600mb's!

Took me awhile to get it to play correctly, Media Player Classic played English no subtitles fine just opening the MK4 file, but it got all jerky when i draged the Player window to my TV out screen.

I got Windows Media Player 9 to open the MK4 file..but all 4 languages started to play too!! no sub titles at least. WMP9 played smoothly in my TV out screen.

Then I DL'ed some other media player, and it had a speaker button to switch audio languages, and it played smooth in the TV out screen.

[Cyberia]

Originally posted by Whizkid28
Whats wrong with the DV2 from SmartRipper, thats the one that doesnt have the choppy Blur.

I'll look into this DGMPGDec.
...
Hmm...I never thought of opening the SmartRipper DV2 file in DVD2AVI. I have opened the DV2 files, side-by-side with Notepad. They are practily the same, but the DV2 has different video stuff I guess.

http://www.cnw.com/~josh/SmartRipper_DV2_File.d2v

http://www.cnw.com/~josh/DVD2AVI_DV2_File.d2v
I simply think the smartripper version is incorrectly building the d2v file.

Rip the vobs with smartripper, but use DGIndex to build the d2v project. Set the Video/Field Operations to NONE and save the project. When the save is complete, check the Video Type field in the information window. If it says FILM 95% or higher, then change the Field Operation to Forced Film, resave and use the resulting d2v with your encoder.

If it says anything else, then the source is either purely interlaced or telecined. This type of video is more difficult to process properly especially for beginners, so read up on what to do in this situation.

[Whizkid28]

Ok, I just used AutoGK 1.25..it works great!

...but, I want more control, I want to normalize/edit the sound, but keep it AC3. I want to choose a resolution, and bit rate.

I have never done a multipass xvid/divx file yet...does it really make a much better quality video?

I have watched many movies...and they hardly had any artifacting, pixelating, ghosting, etc...all very smooth lines and action/motion.

I spend alot of time at work, and I can encode realy high quality movies while I am away, or sleeping.

can someone point me to a FAQ or step-by-step process for making xvid/divx/mv4 with:

1. Some VOB ripper, I prefer SmartRipper over DVD Decrypter
2. Some Project file maker, I guess DVD2AVI? or something for VirtualDub/VirtualDubMod
3. and finaly encode the file with VirtualDub/VirtualDubMod, or some other better encoder you suggest.

a. I want to edit/normalize the audio, but keep it AC3/Dolby/DTS
b. Choose resolution and bitrade, and try multipass encoding.
c. and some nice subtitler thingy...or is that awhole nother thread, cause I have seen some AWESOME subtitles on Anime.

[phædrus]

You may not like DVD Decrypter, but sometimes SmartRipper will miss the ends of episodes on multi-episode television series DVDs. DVD Decrypter has been able to catch those for me. But generally I prefer the GUI and ease of using SmartRipper.

Yes, you must do multipass for good rips. Sometimes 3 or 4 passes are necessary for good MPEG-2 files. With DivX, 2-pass is all I've ever used, so I don't know if more passes would be worth the trouble. Doing at least a 2-pass, in any format, is really an improvement, because it allows more bits to be used in high motion scenes, while conserving in scenes with little detail and little movement.

If they've incorporated DGIndex into an alpha release of GordianKnot, I would seriously consider using that. You can set up BeSweet in the ripping/frameserving/audio processing stage to normalize the audio. Then it'll do that every time by default. I not expert enough to give detailed advice, but GK is a great program, and I'd be using it now, except I have an earlier version that had an audio sync problem. I'm sure that is fixed in later releases.

[Whizkid28]

I used DVD Decrypter to make a Finding Nemo Xvid..and it made the starting Disney intro, and 1st part of the movie some DVD extra video..but it kepted the audio from the real opening.

Once I rewinded the playback to the beginning of the xVid, it played the normal video.

I really like Auto GK, but how do I make it do multi passes? My Finding Nemo 700mb version is decent, but its not as crisp/clean as one I saw at a friends house..it was some MK4 file..i think?