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ambrotos
28th August 2004, 04:20
I started to encode some animations link (http://www.nausicaa.net/)
So I started to look on FAQs, forums etc. to find the best way to do it.
Now my avisynth plugin directory is full of plugins advised "for anime", or to get "a better quality", or "a better compressibility".
But I don't know in which order I should use them... neither why this order... and not another one

The source is an animation with high detailed background so very hard smoothing or sharpening render awfull image (it's not TV-anim with a lot of flat color areas, even if it's animation, so there is more flat color areas than in a movie ^^). And it must fit in a 700Mo CD

I selected the following filters for avisynth 2.5 :
(I first converted NTSC -> 23.9760 fps)
(and clipped the movie to remove black borders)

- convolution 3D
- dup (a duplicate frame remover)
- awarpsharp
- bicubicresize
- msmooth
- temporalcleaner

I need your advise to sort this ^^
you can add your favorite filter in the list.

malkion
28th August 2004, 05:58
- convolution 3D
- dup (a duplicate frame remover)
- awarpsharp
- bicubicresize
- msmooth
- temporalcleaner

get rid of dup, put convolution first, then msmooth, then temporalcleaner, for better compression put resize first then awarpsharp then your cleaners, for less compression, put awarpsharp then resize after your cleaners.

if i recall, it's spatial-temporals first, then spatials, then temporals. in the end i wonder if it matters all that much. :)

kingmob
28th August 2004, 12:35
Also a lot of filters have a virtualdub(mod) counterpart. In virtualdub you can easily compare different orders of plugins.
Or you could, as i do a lot, create two different vids you want to compare and use:
StackHorizontal(vid1.Crop(0,0,-halfthehorizontalres,0),vid2.Crop(halfthehorizontalres,0,0,0)). This helps me a lot in spotting differences in colour etc. You can also crop both clips to their middle, so you can easily compare the same area. I use crop so i retain the original size of the video.

This way you can easily check what's the best quality wise.