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Video Dude
21st August 2004, 20:56
I have a NTSC cartoon tv capture source clip that is bottom field first.

I apply Donald's Graft's Telecide and Decimate to restore it back to progressive frames.

I remember reading in the forum that progressive is always top field first. But when I put Info() after the Telecide and Decimate, AviSynth still indicates bottom field first.

My question is, if I am encoding the script with CCE Basic should I set the field box in CCE Basic to TFF or BFF?

Thanks.

scharfis_brain
21st August 2004, 21:03
for progressive video you don't need to bother about its field order.

Video Dude
21st August 2004, 21:10
Thanks for the answer.

I'll leave the CCE default which is TFF since it doesn't matter.

Si
22nd August 2004, 01:34
I have a NTSC cartoon tv capture source clip that is bottom field first.
Just for personal interest, what do you use for capturing?

And from experience, if a progressive frame restorer
makes mistakes and your field order isn't right, then your picture will jitter occasionally which can be quite annoying.

regards
Simon

Video Dude
22nd August 2004, 03:06
A Canopus ADVC-100 box. Its a DV bridge that "captures" in the DV format which is bottom field first. It has s-video and rca composite inputs.

My firewire card came bundled with Ulead MediaStudio SE, so I use that for capturing software.


Since it is bff I use "order=1" in Telecide.


AviSource(C:\bff.avi)
ReInterpolate411()
Telecide(order=1, ... )
FDecimate(...)
Filters



Decomb seems to clean it up great. No jitters at all.

I was just confused at first because I read progressive was always tff but AviSynth was still indicating it was bff after the IVTC. But it seems that it does not matter.