New Nerovision/Recode version

[calinb]

Originally posted by Jvdhorst
the ideal solution for me is the use of Avisynth scripts to deinterlace or reverse field orders for interlaced or deinterlaced encoding. I use avisynth for a variety of tasks too, but it's not terribly convenient when compared to the earlier versions of Recode2 that did this properly.

[Wedgedkc]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
EDIT: I forgot to ask... Is there any particular reason why when playing .MP4 encodes using software players such as Media Player Classic, ZoomPlayer or even Micro$oft's original 6.4 player, Nero's audio DSdec filter cannot be located and connect?

Currently only WMP9 can find the filter!


apparently the NeAudio.ax does a number of check to make sure that only the _right_ players can use it. to get it to work with for instance mplayerc you need;
1. to keep the C:\Program Files\ahead\NeroVision\NeroVision.exe file in place.
2. the following registry keys (i'm not 100% certain that they are both needed):
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ahead\NeroVision\Info]
"Company"="Dover"
"User"="Ben"
and
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\NeroVision.EXE]
@="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead\\NeroVision\\NeroVision.exe"
"Path"="C:\\Program Files\\Ahead"
3. rename your mplayerc.exe file to either showtime.exe or nerovision.exe

enjoy! and please remove these checks ahead... what good is it for? are you afraid of alot of support issues regarding your filters from mplayerc users?
oh. btw. i can't enable dxva accelleration in the video decoder. ahead, can you please help me with this? ;)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Wedgedkc
"Company"="Dover"
"User"="Ben" "BEN DOVER"... This has got to be a wind-up!


Cheers

[PlazzTT]

Another new version of Recode (version: 2.1.2.21)...

http://www.nero.com/us/631943775235296.php

No changelog yet.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well spotted...

I checked a only couple of hours ago and it wasn't there!


Cheers

[SeeMoreDigital]

Damn!

I was hoping that Mpeg4/Mp3 in MP4 encodes would work in ShowTime.

I was also hoping that Nero's DSdec filters would work in other media players (apart from WMP9/10)... but they don't!

Seeking with Mpeg4 AVC files seems to work now, but the video is not as fluid as before!

Also, the AAC audio bitrate is still not correctly displayed in the player :(


Cheers

[InsulinJunkie]

I just did one quick test run, but it appears IVTC on NTSC DVDs is still hosed :(

I just did an upgrade install over the existing Recode; I'll try a more complete uninstall/reinstall later to see if it makes a difference.
It shouldn't, but you never know....

[Sharktooth]

I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund.

[JohnV]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund. You went "straight to refund" already in July. :D
Anyway, seriously I don't know what else it could be except that you haven't registered Nerovision Express/Recode properly. Check the Nerovision registration/serial.
Or maybe your serial is faulty..

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
I will never be able to use recode:(
Last time i checked it still asked for "plugins"...
I tried several fixes with the help of ahead guys but none of them worked.
So... refund. What sort of "plugins" is Recode2/NVE asking for?

Currently I don't have the "Multichannel Plug-In" installed, but as my Xcard can't decode 6Ch AAC audio, It's not bothered me!


Cheers

[Sharktooth]

I know, infact i asked for a refund in july and it never happened... :confused:
After a gazillion of tests now the damn thing (Recode) asks for DVD video plugin (i know it's already there and should work...) whenever i click one of the 2 nero-digital options.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Now be honest.... before you purchased Nero6, was your previous installation running with an "hookie" code number?

If so, this might be why you're now seeing all these warnings!


Cheers

[Sharktooth]

no. the problem is there even if i reformat...
with a clean OS and Nero installs i launch recode and the problem pops up.
Sure i even tried keygens to make it work (after i bought it and got my serial) coz ppl was telling me it was a serial number problem ... but i formatted my hard drive at least 10 times...
Oh... my Nero Burning Rom is an OEM version.
Never bought Nero... i had it always bundled with my burners.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Sharktooth
Oh... my Nero Burning Rom is an OEM version.
Never bought Nero... i had it always bundled with my burners. So is mine... I got it with my BTC DRW1008IM DVD~R/RW burner.

My DVD burner connects to the PC via USB2.0. I don't have any "disc" drives connected via IDE.

My big problem with NVE and Recode2, is that my DVD's drive tray opens and closes every time I launch the software and then again prior to creating an encode :(


Cheers

[chilledoutuk]

If you have paid for a full ultra edtion version of nero and are still having problems with the plugins i dont see the legal issue with using a enterprise or ultra edition serial easily found on the net which both fully unlock the plugins.

[Sharktooth]

"DVD VIDEO plugin installed correctly" ...
but recode still asks for the plugin... :D

EDIT: The miracle just happened! It was my Nero OEM version that just didnt like the DVD and multichannel plugin serials.
I just provided Nero a "Nero Burning ROM - Ultra Edition serial" and the other serials just worked and activated the plugins flawlessly.
So at least i know my OEM version is not good and i should buy the ultra edition to use recode...

[McoreD]

Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?

Background:
This version of Recode can now split the movie to 2 or more CDs which is a great feature.

However something like this happened during today's test: Imported 3 Titles and configured to split to 2 CDs. Encoding using 2-pass.

Title 1.mp4 ========= 691.00 MB
Title 1_cut(1).mp4 == 003.27 MB
Title 2.mp4 ========= 296.00 MB
Title 3.mp4 ========= 377.00 MB

Total file size of Title 1.mp4 + Title 1_cut(1).mp4 is 694.27 MB which is less than 700 MB. But Nero Recode 2.1 split the file for no reason.

[LostMP4]

Originally posted by McoreD
Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?

Background:
This version of Recode can now split the movie to 2 or more CDs which is a great feature.

However something like this happened during today's test: Imported 3 Titles and configured to split to 2 CDs. Encoding using 2-pass.

Title 1.mp4 ========= 691.00 MB
Title 1_cut(1).mp4 == 003.27 MB
Title 2.mp4 ========= 296.00 MB
Title 3.mp4 ========= 377.00 MB

Total file size of Title 1.mp4 + Title 1_cut(1).mp4 is 694.27 MB which is less than 700 MB. But Nero Recode 2.1 split the file for no reason.

Maybe to find a proper keyframe or scene change... where's located the cut?

[calinb]

Originally posted by McoreD
Question:
Can we join to ND-MPEG4 files to together without re-encoding the files all over again?
Try this:

I've done this using the 3ivx splitter, ogm multiplexer, and virtualdubmod.

1. Use graphedit to build a filter graph to demux the Nero mp4 files and remux them to ogm files, ie., mp4 filesource >> 3ivx splitter >> ogg multiplexer >> file writer (ogm file)

2. Open the 1st ogm file in Vdubmod and append the others, in order.

3. Save as a mkv file with direct stream copy for audio and video.

4. (Optional) Build a filter graph with graphedit to demux the mkv file and remux to mp4.

You can even use vdubmod to trim the clip--just be sure to mark in on a keyframe.

In my experience, the AAC stream will be preserved. If the mp4 file contains HE-AAC, you may have to remux the mkv file with mkvmerge and activate the "AAC is SBR" setting, to get the correct audio sampling rate. (Otherwise, it will be sampled at 1/2x.) Use the coreaac filter to playback and check.

[McoreD]

@LostMP4, it is cut somewhere during the cast. Title 1.mp4 finishes in the middle of cast and it is continued from Title 1_cut(1).mp4.

@calinb, thanks for sharing your method. I will try that out.

[calinb]

Originally posted by McoreD
@calinb, thanks for sharing your method. I will try that out. I tried it again just now. Works okay with VdubMod 1.5.4 (the version that ships with AutoGK). VdubMod 1.5.10 doesn't append properly.

Also, remember to check "Allow Unsupported Decoders" in the 3ivx splitter properties or the splitter won't connect to the ogg muxer.

[McoreD]

Appreciate your time calinb. :)

ahead should really make some useful utilities to facilitate these needs. Just like these free utilities that comes with Windows Media Encoder 9 for free: Windows Media File Editor and Windows Media Stream Editor.

Using Microsoft® Windows Media® Stream Editor, you can split or combine streams in existing Windows Media files to create one or more audiences in new output files. An audience refers to the stream or set of streams in a file that represent the content that is played simultaneously. Typically, an audio stream and a video stream comprise an audience. The following are examples of tasks you can accomplish by using Windows Media Stream Editor:

Combine streams from multiple source files
Split streams in a file into separate files
Add language support to a file

Microsoft® Windows Media® File Editor is a tool that enables you to open and edit a Windows Media file with a .wmv, .wma, or .asf file name extension. For example, you can trim the start and end points of a file, and add attributes, markers, and script commands. You can also import and export header files if you want to save your edits or reuse edits you previously made.

[Sharktooth]

Oh... and M$ should add b-frames option in WMV9 VCM...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Yep, for sure we need more Mpeg4 in MP4 (and AVI) tools.

Come on all you freeware developers!

[pogo stick]

Is it possible to switch between video or at least audio streams using Nero DS stuff? Switching video is not necessary, but it must work for audio! I tried every DS player I have, but it doesn't work.
Here is what I see in MPC (I combined 2 pictures):

http://pogo-stick.nm.ru/nero.jpg

And it's not switchable. :(

[bond]

huh where does this "GPAC audio handler" come from? is that a screenshot from MPC?

with the 3ivx filter switching audio should perfectly work (i tried it in bsplayer and mpc if i remember it right), dunno whether the morgan stream switcher works, but i assume so (altough its really crap)

[pogo stick]

Yes, it's MPC and this is how it handles mp4 using Nero DS stuff.
mp4 was made with mp4box using script based on your MP4Menu-P2. That's why it shows "GPAC ISO Video/Audio Handlers".
But the problem is that Nero parser can not output more than 1 audio. So switchers are not helping. :(

http://pogo-stick.nm.ru/ge.jpg

[bond]

Originally posted by pogo stick
mp4 was made with mp4box using script based on your MP4Menu-P2. That's why it shows "GPAC ISO Video/Audio Handlers".hm, do you have osmo4 installed? if yes, does it also show the gpac stuff after you uninstalled it?

But the problem is that Nero parser can not output more than 1 audio. So switchers are not helping.wow thats crap

[pogo stick]

Originally posted by bond
hm, do you have osmo4 installed? if yes, does it also show the gpac stuff after you uninstalled it?
It's the same with or without Osmo4.

[calinb]

@McoreD: A few more hints--it appears, due to the way VDubMod 1.5.4.1 does audio preload on appended segments, that you first have to remux and delay the video in the clips to be appended by 500ms (using "Audio Skew Correction -500ms"). So here's an example of how I join "n" number of mp4 clips and avoid sync problems:

1. Use graphedit to remux all the clips to be joined to ogm.

file source >> 3ivx splitter >> ogm muxer >> file writer

(It saves time to edit graphedit xml files, if you have a bunch of clips to remux).

2. Use VdubMod 1.5.4.1 to remux clips 2 through n to new ogm files with -500 ms of audio delay.

3. Open clip #1 and use VdubMod 1.5.4.1 to append clips 2 through n. Save as an mkv file.

4. (Optional) Remux final video to mp4. (Still trying to get smooth playback here.)

file source >> mkv splitter >> 3ivx muxer >> file writer

Sure would be nice to have a tool that could just do this natively. :)

[hubereevez]

any news for merging avc/h264 mp4 files ?

thanks

hubert

[FXsan]

Maybe I'm off topic, but I dont find anything about hinting files (for streaming with Darwin, Real, etc...) except with Vdub.
As I want to store my files on a centralized PC server, and distribute it on demand to several (2 !) DVD players with ethernet input, in this "mediagateway" I'd like to use streaming.
But I didn't find an option in Nero to directly hint MP4 files ?
even for MPEG-4ASP (as I understood the hinting won't be the same for MPE4 H264 , and not yet finalized).
Maybe I missed it ?
Thanks for advise

[babayaga]

Originally posted by FXsan
But I didn't find an option in Nero to directly hint MP4 files ?
even for MPEG-4ASP (as I understood the hinting won't be the same for MPE4 H264 , and not yet finalized).
Maybe I missed it ?

This feature is not included in the current version of Recode, maybe in a next release ...