Very odd problem with ripping.

[MichiganFocker]

Ok let me try to explain. I have been using the same set up for a while now with no problems til a few months ago on both my laptop and PC the problem started up out of the blue.

I have just reinstalled my OS's on the laptop and PC and of course all the ripping programs and still having the same problem

Here is the list of programs and versions I am using.

Dvd2svcd v.122_B1
Cinema_Craft_Encoder_2.67.09
eclcce_1.81
FACAR_1.06.7
D2SRoba 3.60

My problem. After a rip is done and watching it on the TV, on the right side the video will not go all the way over to the edge. I am posting a picture so you will see what I mean.

http://www.geocities.com/michiganfocker/guides/TV.gif

As you can see from the pic the video is way away from reaching the edge. I have no clue why this started happening or how to fix it. Maybe someone can give me some insight on it.

Should I try different versions of the programs I use? Any help is much apprectiated this is driving me nuts.

Thanks, Mich. :)

[ralphthedog]

My first guess would be something is messed up in the FACAR department.

Post your DVD2SVCD log file if you can so we can have a look what's going on.

[Rockas]

Similar situations happened to me when using "Autofit". Lately I stoped using it... no more problems :-)
The problem can be on the TV it self... have you tested on the PC?

keep it UP

[MichiganFocker]

Ok will post the log when I do my next rip later tonight.

Watching it on the PC looks normal to me. Odd again is, I download tons of movies and not one has this problem on the tv. It's only the rip's I do.

Also if I change my dvd player from 16:9 to 4:3 it looks perfect but of course the picture will look smooshed up. Not sure that is any useful information for you?

I am not sure this happens when ripping a full screen dvd. I am going to have to check that out. I do know it happens every time on with a wide screen dvd.

Thanks for the feedback will be back with a log file. Mich. :)

[Rockas]

Did you made any kind of "color conversion"?

[Nick]

I download tons of movies and not one has this problem
@MichiganFocker
We do not wish to know this.
Please keep debate in this forum about your legal backups of DVD's you own.

Cheers
Nick

[r6d2]

From the "FACAR" department... You are probably using too much overscan. Be sure to measure yor TV overscan to adjust FACAR defaults if needed. This can also happen with AutoFitCD. 4% is a safe value in most cases, but better check it out.

[MichiganFocker]

@Rockas - Nope I didnt make any color conversions to my knowledge.

@r6d2 - ok will have a look at the overscan.

Ok here is a log of my most recent rip.

WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
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- 8/12/2004 6:29:38 PM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 1
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Initializing
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_0.ifo
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_1.vob
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_2.vob
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_3.vob
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_4.vob
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_5.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 8/12/2004 6:29:42 PM
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -OM=0 -EXIT -OF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_1.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_2.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_3.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_4.vob,C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\vts_01_5.vob]
Analyzing DVD2AVI Project file
Force Film activated!
Framerate: 23976
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 8/12/2004 6:35:42 PM
- Free on drive C: 23843.91 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x80
Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -67 ms
Audio extraction finished.


Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Tylo\BeSweetLater.bat" -core( -input "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -C 0db -S 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -67 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 128 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 8/12/2004 6:42:16 PM
- Free on drive C: 23491.11 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 1667869728
AudioSectors: 107343236
VideoPAPO: 24173388
ScanOffsetBytes: 190218
SeqAligningBytes: 12089411
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 8
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 1.00
PureMPEGStream: 1524073467.33
Seconds: 6619.40
CalcMPEGStream: 1524073467.33
Frames: 158515
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 2
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 158515
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 28
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: One Pass VBR
Q. Factor: 23
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 1841
Aspect Ratio: Anamorphic (no borders, encoded as 16:9)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
MPEG2Source("C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\DVD2AV~1.D2V")
ResizeTo=0 global ResizeMethod=1 DebugMode=0
GammaCorrection=1.0 Hue=0 Saturation=1.0 Brightness=0 Contrast=1.0
DetectedTop=56 DetectedHeight=368
OverscanH=0.05 OverscanV=0.05 BlockOptimization=0 AsoTV=1
global Bicubic_b_Value=0 global Bicubic_c_Value=0.6
DestinationWidth=480
DestinationHeight=480
DestinationTop=0
DestinationBottom=0
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\SimpleResize\SimpleResize.dll")
# Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\qmf15b1.avs")
# Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\QMF_functions.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Tylo\RoBaConditional.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\FACAR.avs")
# Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\Avisynth2.5 Plugins\FACAR\PostResize.avs")
Import("C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

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- 8/13/2004 1:42:27 AM
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.2 build 1
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Initializing
-
Initializing finished.

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- 8/13/2004 1:42:27 AM
- Free on drive C: 22610.91 mb
- Restarting from: Pulldown
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- 8/13/2004 1:42:30 AM
- Free on drive C: 22610.89 mb
- Video Pulldown
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Executing Pulldown. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\pulldown\pulldown.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv" -prog_frames p
Video pulldown finished.

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- 8/13/2004 1:45:08 AM
- Free on drive C: 21942.15 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 8/13/2004 1:45:11 AM
- Free on drive C: 21942.14 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 8/13/2004 1:45:13 AM
- Free on drive C: 21942.14 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 8/13/2004 1:45:16 AM
- Free on drive C: 21942.14 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 1
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 1 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 8/13/2004 1:52:51 AM
- Free on drive C: 21148.37 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
6604.878 seconds C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\0) Movie\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 8/13/2004 1:53:44 AM
- Free on drive C: 21148.36 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 19

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\PROGRA~1\DVD2SVCD\0)MOVI~1\VCDXBU~1.XML"
Image creation finished.

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- 8/13/2004 1:58:06 AM
- Free on drive C: 20343.69 mb
- Conversion done!
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Thanks for all the help, Mich. :)

[MichiganFocker]

@r6d2

Ok im guessing the overscan is under the fameserver tab and with FACAR selected.

I see it listed under the Avisynth Command window. It's set right now to... OverscanH=0.05 and OverscanV=0.05

If that's not the right place to be looking could you give me a heads up where to look. Also how do I measure my TV overscan?

Thanks Mich.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by MichiganFocker
I see it listed under the Avisynth Command window. It's set right now to... OverscanH=0.05 and OverscanV=0.05Try using Debug mode and lowering it to 0.04. (Look at the FACAR readme).
Also how do I measure my TV overscan?Look at my sig. ;)