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the_free_account
30th July 2004, 04:55
Hi,

I am trying to encode a documentary, 99% of which is simple telecined FILM. However, there are some snippets of old black and white film mixed in. Each B&W snippet seems to have been interlaced differently; frame patterns include 5:1:3:1, 4:1:3:1, 6:1, and others.

I have tried both Telecide(guide=1) and Telecide(guide=0), but in most cases Telecide() doesn't seem to realize that the B&W pattern is different from film. This results in bizarre variations on the standard ccc:nn conversion (for example, cccc:nn:c:n:cc), which naturally borks the B&W, increasing its choppiness.

I have tried messing with gthresh=, but if I set it too low, it increases choppiness throughout the entire video. I'm using FDecimate() to kill the extra frames.

I am pretty new to this, so I'd appreciate any pointers, background, and/or advice on how to do this conversion properly. How can I convert the film from 30fps to 24fps while keeping choppiness in the B&W to an absolute minimum?

Thanks,
-Mike

Leak
30th July 2004, 11:40
Originally posted by the_free_account
I have tried both Telecide(guide=1) and Telecide(guide=0), but in most cases Telecide() doesn't seem to realize that the B&W pattern is different from film. This results in bizarre variations on the standard ccc:nn conversion (for example, cccc:nn:c:n:cc), which naturally borks the B&W, increasing its choppiness.

If it's Telecide that is causing the choppiness you could try my BlendBob plugin (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=80289) on those parts of the movie (maybe not on the whole movie until I implement "real" field matching instead of bobbed frame blending); I haven't tried it on black and white films, but it should work in principle...

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