Where do i go with my files from here?

[storebror]

Hi. Ok, got a converted 24fps NTSC to 25fps PAL m2v-file and a separate PCM-.wavfile. First i probably have to sync it with the movie since the audio is only 1:59:17 but the movie 1:59:24. Also converted the ripped Audiofile from 24 NTSC---> 25 PAL. Now, how do i do this? Where can i put the Audio+Video together for editing/previewing? :rolleyes:

Thx.

[jggimi]

BeSweetGUI has presets for stretching or shrinking audio soundtracks when converting from NTSC to PAL or vice versa. Includes both 29.97 and 23.976 adjustments.

After adjusting the audio, you can mux it back together with TMPGEnc's MPEG Tools.

[storebror]

okiDoki. Even though they got different length??
Having the files synced and all in VDupMpeg at the moment but can't save the file as an .AVI since the prog. doesn't allow m2v-files to be saved as Avi's..lol

[jggimi]

No, you can't use MPEG-2 in an AVI container. It's why I suggested TMPGEnc, so that you could mux them together into a MPG container.

Audio adjustment will depend upon how you did the conversion of the video from 23.976 to 25fps. If you changed framerates, then obviously they will be different lengths, and the audio needs to be adjusted. If you added frames, then the time should not have changed.

You haven't provided enough information for me to provide any additional info.

[storebror]

Did the conversion via this Avisynth-script in CCE 2.50
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#Import("D:\unzipped\abit.appz\unzipped\appz\filmprogs\rippers\ripPack\VirtualDub\plugins\vdub_filters.avs")
LoadPlugin("D:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\mpeg2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("D:\Program\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\VSFilter.dll")
AVISource("D:\movies\The Jackal\The Jackal.avi")
AssumeFPS(25.000, true)
ConvertToYUY2()
BicubicResize(672,544,0,0.6,0,2,720,364)
TextSub("D:\movies\The Jackal\The Jackal.ssa")
AddBorders(24,16,24,16)
#Trim(0,179119).FadeOut(150)
#AddAudio()
#resampleAudio(41000)
SSRC(48000)
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So i guess i have to sync the Audio+Video but How?
As far as i get it it's no use to mux before the sync, is it?

[jggimi]

AssumeFPS changes the framerate without changing the frame count. You didn't state clearly what the original framerate of "The Jackal.avi" was. You specified 24fps, but NTSC is either 29.97 or 23.976. I assumed the latter.

To speed up the framerate from 23.976 to 25fps will shorten your content, so the times you mentioned for your audio and video don't make a great deal of sense to me. The audio, if unchanged, should be longer than the video, but the way you reported it was the exact opposite. Did you, perhaps, convert from 29.97fps?

You've got .mpv output from CCE. Great.

You need to convert your audio, and as I suggested, you can use BeSweetGUI for that purpose. As I described, select the proper preset that matches the framerate change you made (most likely 23.976 to 25.000). While converting the audio length appropriately, BeSweet can simultaneously encode it to another audio format (such as MP2) depending on the requirements you have for your your final output format (which you left unstated).

To mux your video and audio together, you can use TMPGEnc, as I described. (File...MPEG Tools).

[storebror]

LOL !! :D I 've already converted my 23.976 audio to 25000 PAL in BeSweet. (The 24 FPS is as you mention a 23.976, yes) Now, what i want to do is to SYNC those two 25 FPS files together. Because, just that i converted the Audiofile doesn't mean that they're in sync automatically as far as i have experienced up to now. SO, i can use an Interface that SYNC the Audio+Video prior to the Muxing:=) Concerning the length of the Audiofile compared to the slightly longer Video, i have no idea why it turned out this way. The "original" file was an 23.976 NTSC AVI(or "24fps") containing mpeg3 sound and mpeg4 video that processed through my AviSynth script.

[jggimi]

TMPGEnc does not support the muxing of .wav audio into an .mpg file. It only supports .mp1, mp2, .mp3, .mpa, and .ac3. You will need to encode the audio before you can use it. What is your final output format going to be? DVD? SVCD? Something else?

Depending on how the audio was demuxed from the .avi, you may not have to worry about audio delay at all. But you won't know until you mux it.

[jggimi]

I took another look at your AviSynth script. Your video resolution after the AddBorders comes to 720x576, so I assume you're trying to get to DVD.

I recommend Doom9's AVI -> DVD-R guide using CCE:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/avi2dvdr.htm

[storebror]

I KNOW since i've already checked, that the Audio+Video is OUT of SYNC.
Lmao. I'm sorry but it seems like you don't know what i'm getting at here. I already know about the Audioformats and the programs and so on. I just want a tool that can SYNC the files Before i put them together:=)))

[storebror]

Originally posted by jggimi
I took another look at your AviSynth script. Your video resolution after the AddBorders comes to 720x576, so I assume you're trying to get to DVD.

I recommend Doom9's AVI -> DVD-R guide using CCE:

http://www.doom9.org/mpg/avi2dvdr.htm

Well, i used Fit2DVD...a great Tool for that..

[jggimi]

Well, you didn't provide much information on what you were trying to accomplish, did you?

Framerate conversions are NOT newbie questions; I'll see if we can get this thread moved to the DVD Authoring forum for you.

[storebror]

I will thank you for hangin around trying helping me out:p Appreciate it. And you're probably right. I've might been a little "blurry" but it seems like i've invented a way to make my things work. I'll see:=)

Thx buddy:D

[ammck55]

Originally posted by jggimi
I'll see if we can get this thread moved to the DVD Authoring forum for you.
...and done.

[echooff]

Having the files synced and all in VDupMpeg at the moment

You have loaded the m2v into vdubmpg and have determined the audio offset via the interleave function. At least that is what I understand you are saying. If I am correct: convert the wav to a mp2 using besweet ensuring you input the offset in the delay box. Mux the files with tmpgenc.

[Msc_Alex]

You could try to match the length of the video with the sound using this (http://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/78178.php) guide ;)

[storebror]

Thx. But there's no option like Transform/Time/Pitch > stretch in CoolEdit Pro.