Infinite ReEncoding of the Last Empty Cell

[Karovaldas]

I tried to get a copy of the "Return of the King" onto one DVD and got into the following problem: the last cell of the movie was encoded over and over again producing multiple copies of itself.

The funny thing is that the last cell is 0 frames long--it's empty.

Here's the process.

- ripped the movies with DVD Decrypter 3.2.3.0
- reauthored with DVD Shrink 3.1.7 (took out all the menus, additional audio tracks and converted the credits to still pictures while keeping the movie proper at the original quality level. I think I left the last chapter-the empty cell at the end of the movie-untouched)
- set up a 3-button project with .55b version of DVD Rebuilder.

The project was setup fine and the encoding of the entire movie via CCE 2.67 SP Trial went smoothly (via EclCCE) until this last empty cell. At that point CCE windows started popping up for a very short time (I can't even see what it says). I thought it was encoding some small cells or somethign, but when I checked the working directory, I noticed that is was producing seemingly endless copies of this one last zero lengh segment of the movie. I had to terminat the process.

Questions:
1. The obivious one, what's going on?
2. Is that last empty cell on the DVD realle necessary (it shows up as its own chapter on DVD Shrink)?
3. How can I compile the transcoded mpegs together with the original soundtrack and subtitiles? Many hours went into the transcoding and I don't want to do this again facing a similar outcome.
4. Is there an easier way to reauthor and get rid of the menus with DVD RB?

Thanks.

[Lagoon]

The problem may be because you used still pictues on the credits , which makes absolutely no sense if you reencode with DVDRB.

Anyway there will be a bug because dvdrb will probably reencode the still frames at 25fps which will cause very high speed credits..

About the last empty cell, you can just cut it in dvd shrink, it won't cause any problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Karovaldas

The funny thing is that the last cell is 0 frames long--it's empty.
I don't think this is right... a common mistake I've seen is for people to look at the trim() statement and see the same number for beginning and end and think it is in error... that isn't 0 frames, it's one. I've also had people make comments about the statement trim(0,-1) -- saying it is an error. It is not, but is the AVISYNTH way to reference the first frame alone (0 in the second position has a special meaning to the trim() statement).

[Faust2]

Originally posted by Karovaldas
I tried to get a copy of the "Return of the King" onto one DVD and got into the following problem: the last cell of the movie was encoded over and over again producing multiple copies of itself.

The funny thing is that the last cell is 0 frames long--it's empty.

Here's the process.

- ripped the movies with DVD Decrypter 3.2.3.0
- reauthored with DVD Shrink 3.1.7 (took out all the menus, additional audio tracks and converted the credits to still pictures while keeping the movie proper at the original quality level. I think I left the last chapter-the empty cell at the end of the movie-untouched)
- set up a 3-button project with .55b version of DVD Rebuilder.

The project was setup fine and the encoding of the entire movie via CCE 2.67 SP Trial went smoothly (via EclCCE) until this last empty cell. At that point CCE windows started popping up for a very short time (I can't even see what it says). I thought it was encoding some small cells or somethign, but when I checked the working directory, I noticed that is was producing seemingly endless copies of this one last zero lengh segment of the movie. I had to terminat the process.

Questions:
1. The obivious one, what's going on?
2. Is that last empty cell on the DVD realle necessary (it shows up as its own chapter on DVD Shrink)?
3. How can I compile the transcoded mpegs together with the original soundtrack and subtitiles? Many hours went into the transcoding and I don't want to do this again facing a similar outcome.
4. Is there an easier way to reauthor and get rid of the menus with DVD RB?

Thanks.

As far as I know, if you converted the credits to still pictures via shrink (don't know how you did this), RB should treat each still as single segment, containing one frame (with one frame number), and these stills are encoded one by one by CCE (so for each frame the CCE window is opening again, if you didn't turn on "open encoders minimized" in settings).
My recommendadion would be, if you reauthor via shrink, to keep the structure as simple as you can. Just one VTS - the movie -, you can keep the languages out later and turn the bitrate down for the credits - if they have their one cell - in RB-Opt.
Jdobbs said, RB is made to "rebuild" the structure of original DVD's as exactly as possible. For this reason he said he doesn't want to bother himself with preprocessing tools. However, IMHO preprocessing with Shrink works pretty good, if you keep the structure simple. If you create stills, were there was just credits before, IMHO you're asking for trouble.

[EnTaroAdun]

Hi, i have had the same mistake. Until the last vob everything works great but at that point CCE windows started popping up for a very short time without producing any output. The DVD is in original state, copied wih dvd decrypter. what can i do?

[Faust2]

@ EnTaroAdun

Are you really sure CCE isn't creating any output? check the resulting m2v's. did the encode come to an end or did you terminate it? were there stills involved (very much segments/ avs's with only one frame)? If so, CCE is opening its own encoding window for each still. btw, which CCE Version are we talking of?

[EnTaroAdun]

No, i did terminate the process. Thanks for your advice, I'm going to run the process overnight, so the pop upping is not going to bother me... I will report if its works. But I don't know if there are many stills involved, like I said, its original (lord of the rings 2 extended, dvd 4).

[EnTaroAdun]

You were right, faust2. I terminated the process to early. Now i led the encoding run overnight and all turned out fine!

Thanks

[EnTaroAdun]

Hmm, it's not okay, I was wrong! I tried to play the video TS folder with power dvd, but i didn't work and the created iso didn't work, too!