Angles and Manual use of scenarist required

[Talayero]

Hello,

Could any one please direct me to a link where that issue is discussed? I'm sure there are several posts with that subject but I can't find them now.

After months using the big 3 this is my first time with that kind of problem. I got the message "VTS 03 contains angles and was autoswitched to VobID Demux (Manual use of Scenarist required)".

The thing is VTS 03 has only 23 MB and is out of Scenarist project.

Thank you

[D3s7]

You could check the guides on doom9.. there are a few there that deal with how to author multi angle movies.. that be your best bet

however, if the VTS set is only 23mg, I personally would just deselect it and not worry about reauthoring it

[Talayero]

Thank you for your answer.

As a matter of fact the VTS_03 -with storyboards of the film- was automatically unchecked and I didn't reauthored it.
But that might be the cause of the problem. Now after using IfoUpdate the menu doesn't work properly.

I think I should first find a guide in doom9 and try to put that VTS_03 in scenarist and make some changes. I would appreciate any suggestions

[D3s7]

Well if your having navigation issues that most likely does not have to do w/ not reauthoring that set....

Are you sure you updated the correct ifo files?
Are you sure you did the "Get Sectors step"?

[Talayero]

Yes, I'm sure of that.

In IfoUpdate I used the mode standard with the options:

-Transfer VTS_C_ADT Table
-Copy color table in each PGC
-VTS_TMAPTI table transfer
-Adjust VTS_TMAPTI
-Auto correct VTS Sectors (I think that's the same as get vts sector with ifoedit)

Now I tried to use the mode Adjusted Cell mode with the option Ignore Angle Cells, and something changed in the navigation but still doesn't work fine.

[Eyes`Only]

if it was changed to vobid demux for that vts, yet it wasn't selected, there would be no consequence. this issue is almost certainly to have nothing to do with those external factors.

[Talayero]

OK I'm desperate. I don' t find any solution.

It seems to me that I'm having more or less the same trouble as DaRtHmAul said to have in "Problem to reach menu after ifoupdate".
But in my case the Trahalds app BatchUpdate didn't solve the issue.

As soon as I update the ifo 2 related to vts_2 wich contains a lot of pgcs with extras I can reach the extras menu. The vts_1 with the movie is ok.

So if I let the film compressed and the extras without compressing there's no navigation problem, but that doesn't fit in a DVD5, and now I don't think I can compress the extras with an all-inone or something without recompressing the main film.

I've checked also that all the pgcs from vts_2 are orderly placed in scenarist and that no stream is missing.

[Talayero]

So far the only difference I've seen is that pgc1, a dummy one, has a 00:00:00.12 duration in the original vts_2 and has no duration (00:00:00.0) in the vts I've authored with Scenarist.
Has that any relevance? I don't think so, but...

[D3s7]

Ok you need to back up a little bit I think..

what VTS sets ARE you demuxing.
and exactly what is the problem you are having after finishing up.

Did you reauthor the scenario by hand or use one of the utils like RA or SA.

Did you make any changes originally (with dvdshrink or anything like that)

Did you allow numenu to run on your menus?

These things should help us help you

[Talayero]

I demuxed with DoItfast4U VTS_1 and VTS_2 (the number 3 with the angles is out, and you were right, it has nothing to do with the problem).

The exact problem is that after ifoupdating VTS_2 the menu goes like that:
I choose language in the language option menu and, after the usual warnings, the animated menu which precedes the root menu starts, but at the end doesn't reach that root menu.
Normally, before updating or using the original dvd, after that animated menu the screen goes black for less than a second and the root menu starts.

I' ve seen that the post command of that animated menu is jump to title 2, that's to say the one I' ve authored with seven pgcs, being a dummy one the first of them.
I tried to trace all the commands linking pgcs but It's not to easy to find a solution that way. Besides, I think the original and the authored ifos must have the same commands, and the problem is elswhere. I don't know.

I didn't reauthor the scenario by hand and didn't make any changes originally (only I made an iso with IMG Tools classic using the backup I had in my computer, ripped with Decrypter in file mode)

I'm thinking of using numenu. For the moment I don't know that software (not even know what it's for exactly) but I'll have a trie tonight and see if it can help with my problem.

Thank you in advance if you could suggest anything.

[D3s7]

sounds like you have done everything correctly

you MAY wanna go into ifoedit and playback from in there.... (first I'd verify w/ a "Get Sectors" in there and make sure it doesn't find any changes)

IF you have any navigation errors OR missing files or the like, ifoedit will tell you while it's playing back..

off the top of my head, it almost sounds like your missing one of the menu files "*_0.VOB"

[Talayero]

Good, I found the solution by chance, changig a command with ifoedit.

The pgc1 in vts_2, where the menu got alway freezed in black (even when playing it with ifoedit) hat several commands if gpreg x Call VMG PGC 12, or 3, or 2.
So, what I did is to discard that conditions if gpreg and call straight the PGCs, one by one untill finally I wrote call VMG PGC: 2 and that solved everything .

I don't know why, but after using ifoupdate that especific command:
If Gpreg 1 == Gpreg 0 then (CallSS VMGM) Call MMG PGC:2 [Resume Cell: 1]
didn't work at all and that was what caused the problem.

The thing is because of that funny issue I lost yesterday several hours of sleep.

At least I happened to hear of a program I didn't know, numenu, and I'm longing for knowing its possiibilities.I still don't know if it's capable of demuxing menus and introducing them in Scenarist projects. Would that mean that you could someway get to put two different films with its respective menus in one only project and create a title menu with options to choose these two menus? I did that a couple of times, demuxing manually the menus and recreating all the linkings in Scenarist but it's a lot of work.
I'd better have a look in the numenu posts.

Thank you everybody