View Full Version : Email not private? Who knew! :p
Neo Neko
1st July 2004, 01:02
The US Court of Appeals for the First Circuit (covering Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island) has ruled that e-mail providers are not violating the law by reading users' e-mail without the user's consent. The decision finds that the Wiretap Act does not cover interception of communications where the communications are being stored, not transmitted.
In case anyone did not know it's official! Email has never been private. ISPs and your boss have been likely scouring your email for as long as you have had email. But it is no longer a grey area for them to do this. This makes it as legal as you reading it. Not that many of us are surprised by this. But what's an average user to do? You don't have anything sensitive [or maybe you do] but you just don't like the idea of them being able to read your conversations with friends etc. Perhaps it is time to look at encryption. Public key encryption being one of the most usefull, secure, and popular. Two great aplications for this are PGP (http://pgp.com) and Gnu Privacy Guard[aka GPG] based WinPT (http://winpt.sourceforge.net/en/). PGP installs plugins for outlook and a few other mail clients. And many programs are coming with the ability to add GPG like enigmail (http://enigmail.mozdev.org/) for Mozilla mail clients.[Including Thunderbird] And some aplications like the PSI client for the Jabber instant messenging service come with GPG built in to encrypt all your IM traffic. What's better above and beyond encryption these programs/schemes allow you to digitally sign a message proving that you are you and you sent it. If you sign all your messages and demand those you correspond with do as well you can virtually eliminate the threat of malicious attatchments for the time being. As there are no trojans savvy enough to track down your private key and sign outgoing messages themselves. If a message is not signed don't touch the attachment. Remember friends don't send friends unsigned email.
Happy and safe computing. :devil:
Sirber
1st July 2004, 03:03
Been using PGP for some time now, now to WinPT. Here's my key:
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Doom9
1st July 2004, 07:52
yesterday I downloaded and installed winpt. Yet, the thing is still not foolproof. I've created a key just fine, imported a few new keys, then set up a mail to a recipient of whom I have his public key, checked the encrypt button, then when trying to send the mail, Outlook Express bitched something about a missing signature ID of the recipient and would not allow me to send the mail encrypted. Reading the manual did not help either so unless I go searching the web for a solution I'm effectively stuck. And I recall that OE integration of the old PGP6 I used to use for a bit was not really good either. Until the integration is as seamless that you can do it in your sleep, encrypted mail is never going to make it on a wide scale.
Neo Neko
1st July 2004, 08:05
I am not sure wether to blame OE or WinPT. Though OE does not get the benefit of the doubt. :p Most people don't do it because no one they know does it. Or if they do very few do. Not enough by any current measure. After getting hit by these things people are quick to install AV. But unfortunatly the last thing they do is upgrade their software or change their habits. It is partly important to get the word out. Let people know. It is beginning to work. ;)
unmei
1st July 2004, 08:58
holy cow, such a key is at least 10x longer than my average mail :)
Here's my key (bb_doom9@gmx.de):
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Let's collect as many public keys as possible!
bb
jernst
1st July 2004, 11:59
http://www.thawte.com/email/index.html
This doesn't require any plugin and is supported out of the box by both outlook/oe (for those who are still using it) and mozilla mail based clients (and I'm sure most other decent mail clients).
I'm finding it much more user friendly than pgp/gpg solutions; what about you ?
@jernst:
It's a matter of trust. PGP is open source, and it has been developed by Phil R Zimmermann, who explains why you need PGP:
http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/en/
Several translations are available from here:
http://www.pgpi.org/doc/whypgp/
thawte on the other hand is a U.S. company, and who knows: maybe they had to give a master key to the NSA, which is kept for "national security" reasons...
bb
Neo Neko
2nd July 2004, 00:18
Thawte is a good system. Though as BB pointed out regestering with them does create a central point of accountability. At this point I don't necessarily have a problem with the NSA having access. Even though officially they don't. My main thing is to keep unscroupulous ISP employees and packet sniffers out of my datastream. Frankly I suspect if the NSA wanted to read my data that bad even GPG/PGP would not save me. ;) I just like the idea of knowing someone is who they say they are wich GPG/PGP and thawte can provide. But GPG/PGP can go further and protect files on the file system as well as mail. :D
Neo Neko
2nd July 2004, 06:33
Relevant linkage. (http://slashdot.org/articles/04/07/02/0116236.shtml?tid=126&tid=158&tid=172&tid=95&tid=99)
Looks as if thawte just got some free competition! Interesting.
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