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Yo
27th June 2004, 20:38
Suggestion--add the possibility of saving the file to OGM instead of .AVI.

The reason--IMO the main advantage of OGM over .AVI is not the possibility of using OGG sound. It's the possibility of having chapters, just like on a DVD. (Also possible with the newer format Matroska, but that is less compatible with software players as of today. For instance, I use AutoGK to make videos to watch on a Pocket PC. AFAIK as of this date there are no PPC video players that will play Matroska, but there are at least two (PocketMVP and Betaplayer) that support OGM as well as AVI.

For some movies I might not care less about chapters. For others, however (such as a music video, a concert in which each song is a chapter), it is really handy to go to a particular chapter.

Or can an .AVI video support chapters?

Regardless of whether hardware DVD players support OGM, the fact is much software for the PC supports playing them, as well as software for PDAs, smartphones, etc. It would be nice to have that chapter support, even if you don't incorporate the OGG sound capability.

niamh
27th June 2004, 21:16
I suppose you're on about auto gordian knot, since the "normal" gordian knot supports this already, as well as mkv.
I bet len0x will implement it as soon as he has the time to breathe and sleep a bit, so be patient or use GK 0.31 alpha if you can't wait :)...

Yo
27th June 2004, 21:32
Originally posted by niamh
I suppose you're on about auto gordian knot, since the "normal" gordian knot supports this already, as well as mkv.
I bet len0x will implement it as soon as he has the time to breathe and sleep a bit, so be patient or use GK 0.31 alpha if you can't wait :)...

Yes, I was referring to AutoGK. (Perhaps the two programs should have separate forums to avoid confusion, over which program is being discussed?)

I am pretty much a newbie at this, do not understand all the different processes, so at this point only use automated all-in-one programs like AutoGK.

len0x
28th June 2004, 10:57
there are quite a few things to do before I get completely boring and have nothing to implement for AutoGK at which point I start looking at ogm :)

Yo
28th June 2004, 19:14
Originally posted by len0x
there are quite a few things to do before I get completely boring and have nothing to implement for AutoGK at which point I start looking at ogm :)

Why wait until you are completely bored? :o

I don't know anything about programming, so am just guessing, but I would guess that implementing OGM as a container to save to would probably be a fairly simple addition. (Again, just a guess.) Adding the possibility of using OGG sound might be more complicated, synchronization, etc.

You could add the "Save to OGM" option (choice of in "Save", AVI or OGM) earlier, and later deal with adding the OGM sound option. (As I mentioned, IMO the main advantage of OGM is not the OGG sound, but chapters.) (Of course, then it would be nice if AutoGk could read the chapter info from the DVDDecrypter files (DVDDecrypter can save a .txt file with chapter info), and include it in the resulting OGM.)

len0x
28th June 2004, 20:39
you might not be aware of that but AutoGK is simply designed for ppl who don't know what OGM is and therefore implementing it is out of scope of the project. Its not the tool that will do everything you want - use GK for that.

Yo
28th June 2004, 22:36
Originally posted by len0x
you might not be aware of that but AutoGK is simply designed for ppl who don't know what OGM is and therefore implementing it is out of scope of the project. Its not the tool that will do everything you want - use GK for that.

In case you're interested, some of the other "all-in-one" automatic programs to convert DVDs to a DIVX AVI file, for people who don't know much, do have the OGM container as an option.

For instance:

"Fair Use Wizard" and

"Pocket DIVX Encoder"

len0x
28th June 2004, 23:14
Good for them! :) Even more reasons to not worry about it - I never wanted to compete with other tools.

jggimi
29th June 2004, 00:19
Yo, I think it's probably a good time to reach back in history to October, 2001, to another Doom9 forum. You may not have seen this: