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noobsaibot
20th June 2004, 21:46
Hello folks, recently I encoded a movie using Gknot and Xvid 1.0.1 using settings recommended by the guide on doom9.org for 1 cd rip. I used h.263, 6 - Ultra high etc;

The movie is a full screen NTSC 29.97 interlaced one (used tomsmocomp)and it plays jerky (bsplayer Wmplayer etc). In Bsplayer I could notice the fps achieved was around 20, tried to play the movie only (no sound) and same thing.

However the same encoded video using Divx 5.11 plays fine.

Any ideas?

Koepi
20th June 2004, 21:57
Disable postprocessing.

Regards
Koepi

noobsaibot
22nd June 2004, 16:21
Postprocessing was always off, as of default options.

stephanV
22nd June 2004, 16:33
then why not use the DivX decoder? in principle without any post-processing all MPEG4-decoders should give the same image, no?

SeeMoreDigital
22nd June 2004, 17:10
When you play your XviD encodes, which DSdec filter is BS player using?

As a matter of interest. How many Mpeg4 codes/filters do you have installed?


Cheers

StainlessSteel
23rd June 2004, 02:45
I have the same problem. It happens with any DVD, no matter if PAL or NTSC.

A very stupid question: Where is that "post-processing" trigger? What's the meaning?

noobsaibot
23rd June 2004, 04:45
When you play your XviD encodes, which DSdec filter is BS player using?

As a matter of interest. How many Mpeg4 codes/filters do you have installed?


Cheers

How can I figure which DSdec filter is being used?

About the filters I have: well, firstly I installed the Gknot codecpack 1.6 with default options, this one also install ffdshow (if that's the matter) and lastly I installed xvid 1.0.1.

Cheers!

StainlessSteel
24th June 2004, 00:22
i had the same problem and got a very good hint. turn off "Packed Bitstream" in your XviD encoder settings.

Koepi
24th June 2004, 07:55
Packed Bitstream isn't to blame, that's absolutely BS.

It's your codec packs. Look into the FAQ and search for "Codec Packs".

(And next time read the FAQ first before posting.)

WaryWolf
25th June 2004, 21:05
ffdshow decodes xvid for me fine, and i use most advanced settings (GMC, qpel, multiple b-frames, etc) and at high resolutions. you may want to try that.

niamh
25th June 2004, 23:37
I've had ffdshow play my movies at half speed about 3 or 4 weeks ago (yes the latest, and no , no post processing )..I was getting between 15 and 20 fps and so a very jerky image, I never figured the reason, but uninstalling and reinstalling it seems to have fixed the issue for me.

doubleJ
2nd July 2004, 22:51
I'm using koepi's latest xvid decoder, only, and it seems that encodes with xvid1 or higher are very slow (cpu is always maxed). I looked in the decoder settings and nothing was checked. Older xvid encodes don't seem to be much of a problem, but ones that have been reported as encoding xvid1 are. Can I assume that they were encoded with some extra post-prossessing? Is there any way to not use it? I'm on a Cel1.2 (oc'd to 1.6) and an athlon 1.4. The Cel has more trouble than the athlon.
JJ

communist
2nd July 2004, 23:00
Originally posted by doubleJ
Can I assume that they were encoded with some extra post-prossessing? Is there any way to not use it?
JJ
Post processing is not encoded into your file. It is done during decoding.
Just make sure that you dont use settings that stress the CPU a bit more during decoding like QPEL.
The XviD decoder isnt the fastest - you could try ffdshow.
http://mitglied.lycos.de/ieggei2/ffdshow/
http://athos.leffe.dnsalias.com/

doubleJ
2nd July 2004, 23:24
I just tried the ffdshow alpha from sourceforge and it plays much better on the cel1.2, although the picture looks grainier. It is smooth, though.
JJ

Didée
3rd July 2004, 00:32
Originally posted by doubleJ
... ffdshow ... the picture looks grainier.
Go to ffdshow configuration -> miscellaneous -> IDCT -> set to [b]XviD[b]. Default in old ffdshow versions is "simple", or "normal" in very old versions. Both are not optimal for you - use XviD IDCT.

- Didée

doubleJ
3rd July 2004, 15:30
There is a libmpeg2(XviD). Is that what I should choose or should I still have the xvid codec installed with ffdshow? I uninstalled Xvid before installing ffdshow.
JJ

Didée
3rd July 2004, 21:36
Yes, "libmpeg2(XviD)" is what you should use in ffdshow.

For playback only, you don't need to have XviD installed. ffdshow alone is sufficient.

But how can you coose to uninstall XviD ... after all, you're only going to watch stuff that you've encoded by yourself, aren't you?
/*me waves finger*/

- Didée