DVD RB & DVD remake

[zoidberg22]

Hi, after reading the forums it seems this may be unsupported, but I tried to used DVD remake 1.46 to edit a dvd(remove FBI titles, opening credits etc..) and dvd-rb(0.52) to re-encode it. However on the rebuilding phase I get a runtime error #0003(some kind of buffer overflow - sorry I dont have the screen in front of me at the moment)

Is there some other way of removing these things and re-encoding with DVD-RB? (I wouldnt know where to begin to re-encode with CCE without DVD-RB)

Or alternatively, is there some more debugging information you'd like?

Thanks for your help

*Edit*
CCE 2.67.00.23
EclCCE 1.81
the encoding phase looks good, .m2v output is good

[KungFuCow]

You could try DVD Stripper. Ive also tried Remake for the same thing and had no luck either.

[hifreak]

Hi

You can also try to strip it with dvd shrink with out compression of course:cool:

[Whitespliff]

Strange, I use RB & ReMake for every DVD I backup.
Works perfect, I did have some problems before (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75682) but after installing Avisynth 2.54 & that modified MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file everything worked fine.
Not sure if this is your problem though.

Look here (http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=750) for some more info.

[bohemian]

I also use DvdRemake to Pre-process my backups, and I have had no problems with it.

ooohhh yehhhh....Its fun changing the navigation of DVDs, take that you insignificant trailers/warnings/logos:devil:

[zoidberg22]

Its a pretty sporadic error, but unfortunately the discs I want to backup(Sopranos Season2) must have some sort of weird VTS format or something. Most times it works perfectly I gather(not for me though :)

[jhmac]

I use DVD-RB and post process with DRM v2.0.1 Pro. Works fine for me this way.

[jptheripper]

after processing with remake i get wierd errors occassionally.

Looking at rebuilders .avs files i typically see a trim (0,-1) or as the last cell of each vts I see a trim (34582,34582) or whatever (i.e. a 0 frame cell) which of course both cce and the ifoupdate stage of rebuilder both explode on.

Any ideas?

[zoidberg22]

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
trim(0,-1)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

This is the avs script created by rebuilder for a cell where I had used dvd-remake to "hide block"

The resultant .m2v file is 9Kb and does not create errors when media player plays it, so it seems fine. CCE didnt seem to have a problem

However the next file
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
trim(1,13717)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

is where rebuilder has the problem. Again CCE encoded it fine, I've watched the clip, and rebuilder even managed to write out some of the data to the video_ts folder.

(Note: I had run the remake output thru dvdshrink where I had trimmed the audio and drastically shrunk the menus and extras, but only took 1% off the main video)

For that matter heres the relevant sections in rebuilder.inf
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=5
Reduction=65.5
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=70302.000

[V01000100002001]
SCR=8816808.000
PTS=8842065.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=13717
Last_Sector=150191
Reduction=65.5
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0
EndPTM=60328500.000

Is the aspect ratio important? Its only 2 when the frames =1.

; Cinema Craft Encoder SP -- Encoder Control List
; Created by DVD ReBuilder
[item]
title=V01000000001001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.vaf
aud_file=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=786
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=16
video_type=4
vid_file0=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.m2v
vid_file1=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=25
vbr_pass=4
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

[file]
name=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=1
encode_first=0
encode_last=1

[item]
title=V01000100002001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100002001.vaf
aud_file=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100002001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=1
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=2686
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=1
alternate_scan=0
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
offset_line=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=16
video_type=4
vid_file0=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100002001.m2v
vid_file1=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100002001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=25
vbr_pass=4
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

[file]
name=C:\REBUILDER WORKING\D2VAVS\V01000100002001.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=13717
encode_first=0
encode_last=13717

I dont know what I'm looking for here, but nothing seems too out of whack.

anyone more knowledgeable see anything weird?

[cyberbob25]

Are you pointing the path in ReBuilder to your ECL.exe instead of CCE? I used to get this error before reading that this has to be pointed to ECL instead.

Also, I found that with CCE v. 2.67 trial, I had to set the CCE version to SP 2.66+ instead of Basic 2.67+ in Rebuilder.

So far, I've been done two movies with ReMake and Rebuilder: Catch Me If You Can, and Runaway Jury. I stripped out the warnings, trailers, logos, credits, 2 of the 3 redundant menus, and the longest damn opening credits I've ever seen with Remake, and it encoded fine with ReBuilder after changing these settings. Runaway Jury on the other hand, encodes fine but there are audio dropouts in the Dolby Digital sound throughout the movie if I use ReMake first (fine if I don't). Can't figure that one out...but as long as it works for most movies, I'm still happy.

[jptheripper]

yeah i use ecl and have it pointed to 2.66+

If you notice in the first file the trim is (0, -1) . CCE crashes for me on this avs, and since there is no m2v, rebuilder crashes on the rebuild stage.

hmm.. wish i could get that 9kb file to generate.

What version of cce are you using?

[zoidberg22]

I have CCE SP 2.67.00.23.

One other thing i noticed is that after I ran the dvd thru dvd remake is that with windows media player I cant seem to randomly skip to other points in movie. it seems to jump ahead a random(or in a pattern I cant discern) number of minutes(3-5). Has DVD remake removed some vital information? For that matter what information is needed to skip to different frames in the movie?

Maybe I could add them back in.

I dont suppose anybody has a copy of dvd remake V2 to try on a sopranos season 2 disc?

*edit* With media player(on the dvd remake output) I also cant maximize the episode that corresponds to the vob file rebuilder was working on when it failed. Remake has pooched it,or the original dvd was not entirely up to spec. *edit*

[Dimad]

Originally posted by zoidberg22
One other thing i noticed is that after I ran the dvd thru dvd remake is that with windows media player I cant seem to randomly skip to other points in movie.
DvdReMake 1.4.6 does not create correct TMAPI (fast forward/backward) table in some cases. This was reported and fixed in 2.0.1

[beretta79]

I started a thread a while back about this same subject. I have had no problems with the DvdRemake/DVD-ReBuilder combination on regular DVD's. But on episode DVD's (like Sopranos & Alias) is where I have run into the 0003 errors. I don't know yet if the new version of DvdRemake will take care of this.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by Dimad
DvdReMake 1.4.6 does not create correct TMAPI (fast forward/backward) table in some cases. This was reported and fixed in 2.0.1

Which we all get to pay for.

Go team.

[Dimad]

Originally posted by beretta79
I started a thread a while back about this same subject. I have had no problems with the DvdRemake/DVD-ReBuilder combination on regular DVD's. But on episode DVD's (like Sopranos & Alias) is where I have run into the 0003 errors. I don't know yet if the new version of DvdRemake will take care of this.

Probably not. DvdReMake did not change streams before and does not change them now.

[biggy7]

i find using clonedvd just to rip the extras and then use dvdrb to encode, have had superb results.

i used to use dvd stripper before, but it just takes too long

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jptheripper
after processing with remake i get wierd errors occassionally.

Looking at rebuilders .avs files i typically see a trim (0,-1) or as the last cell of each vts I see a trim (34582,34582) or whatever (i.e. a 0 frame cell) which of course both cce and the ifoupdate stage of rebuilder both explode on.

Any ideas? :confused: I'd suggest you do a little reading of the AVISYNTH documentation. These statements are both correct.

[zoidberg22]

Well im gonna try with DVD-rb 0.53 and maybe fiddle with some CCE settings. If anything works I'll post it here(although my hopes arent too high, but what the hell I'm just happy I got the programmers themselves to jump in, so hopefully this'll stick in their brains when they're coding these great tools)

[Lazza]

Originally posted by hifreak
Hi

You can also try to strip it with dvd shrink with out compression of course:cool:
Yep, OK so you can't strip out as much using Shrink but still a superb tool in conjunction with DVD-RB/CCE anyway. Done about 20 movie-only films using this method and every one is flawless and plays on every player tried.

[luphy]

@Lazza,

Using Shrink to make movie-only movies, have you ever used the CCE OPV mode?

If so, have you had any errors in skipping during playback?

[Lazza]

Originally posted by luphy
@Lazza,

Using Shrink to make movie-only movies, have you ever used the CCE OPV mode?

If so, have you had any errors in skipping during playback?
Sorry, only ever used multipass VBR on CCE 2.50. Usually between 2 or 4 passes depending on disc size.

[Dimad]

Here is some info posted by one of the DvdReMake users in DvdReMake forum ( http://cdr-zone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=783 ):

The problem child was Pearl Harbor Disc 2. Several I observed through this whole ordeal:

1) After I used Remake to hide some warnings and get rid of multi angle, I would get a CCE error when trying to encode if I used the "Steal Space" option.

2) In addition to the multi-angle, there was a PGC 2 in the same TS as the movie. PGC 2 containe only a few cells but they contained video.

Bottom line is this. I removed the multi-angle, hid the PGC 2 in the movie TS, took out warning messages, deleted buttons to audio which I was not going to encode, and did not use the "Steal Space" option in DVD Rebuilder. The files prepared, encoded, and rebuilt with no problems. Burnt the final Video_TS Nero and the final disc worked fine.


Hope it helps some more people here.