What matrix is comparable to DIV3(lanczos resize)?

[Brother Darrell]

I just Encoded KillBill w/SBC at 640-264 using Lanczos resize. No extra filters, except undot, & as a 2-cd rip. The results were great.
What would be the equiv settings using Xvid? H.263, Mpeg or yet another type of Matrix?
I used Div3 in the 1st place due to my own ignorance. I can't get a grasp of how to use the 2nd pass vdenc.log from Gknot & I know Len0x and others are quite tired of explaining it. I know how to use the stats file from Div3 though, so I thoughtI would use SBC just to get the idea of what the compression & quality would be, (in numbers I recognize). Then encode using Xvid. I know I can't use the DIV3 stats file for Xvid & had no intention of doing so. But then it occurred to me, DIV3 doesn't have the matrix setting that Xvid has. So what would give me the same visual quality for it?
The results are great using SBC, I could leave well enough alone and just go with it. It plays very well on my new Philips DVP642 but I would prefer Xvid. Any suggestions?

[Pen-Pen]

good old sbc was very crisp (yummy ! :))

try Didee's SixOfNine matrix or hvs-best :)

[Sharktooth]

If you have some free time you could also try my EQM matrix.
It's very crisp and does not sacrifice too much the compressibility.
Here's the link: EQM V1 (http://ebola.gamersrevolt.it/eqm_v1.xcm)

[Brother Darrell]

Thanks. I will give it a try.

[RadicalEd]

Yet, interestingly enough, DivX 3 is using H.263 quantization itself...

[Brother Darrell]

Originally posted by RadicalEd
Yet, interestingly enough, DivX 3 is using H.263 quantization itself...


Really? Hmm. Why does it look so much more detailed than say Xvid using the standard Mpeg matrix? I will try that one too.

[RadicalEd]

That I wish I knew :_

[Didée]

Better DC precision. IIRC, 9 bit.

- Didée

[Chainmax]

If you are using SBC, why don't you try encoding to Mpeg4v2? IIRC, it was even more detailed than DivX3...

[aaar9800]

If SBC, indeed, uses 9-bit precision - can XviD also use that or even a 10-bit precision. And if it is possible how much code must be changed and would it worth it? The last questions goes to people as knowledgeable as sykin, I guess.

[Didée]

AFAIK, mpeg-4 is only allowed to use 8-bit DC precision, and nothing else.

So, no way. (Unless Syskin decides to pick up again work on the 'Kludge' codec.)

- Didée

[Prettz]

Originally posted by RadicalEd
Yet, interestingly enough, DivX 3 is using H.263 quantization itself...
Are you kidding? That's incredible. I guess it was able to make a sharper picture by using all the bits it saved by skimping on the predicted residual.

[RadicalEd]

Yeah, msmpeg4 is a premature implementation of simple profile, and H.263 is the only quantization type allowed for SP mpeg 4.