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skamikaze
13th June 2004, 05:05
I am so overwhelmed with this DVD ripping stuff. There's so much walk throughs, but I'm having trouble figuring out which ones apply to my task, and what programs I need.

Here's what I'm trying to do:
I'd like to compile various music videos from various music DVDs (so i can have a variety of artists on a DVD). But I dont want to lose the video and audio quality. Especially the Dolby 5.1.

ALSO...I'm trying to make my own DVD music videos using CD audio and movie clips. But I can't figure out how to digitize clips from DVD to use in video editing programs. i can only get video from firewire with a dv camera...but i really want to use some DVD footage to edit my own music videos...

any help or pushes into the direction i need to go would be greatly appreciated!

Dimmer
13th June 2004, 05:45
There are many methods available, here are some examples.
I'd like to compile various music videos from various music DVDs (so i can have a variety of artists on a DVD). But I dont want to lose the video and audio quality. Especially the Dolby 5.1. Rip all source DVDs to HDD with DVD Decrypter (http://www.doom9.org/Soft21/Rippers/SetupDVDDecrypter_3.2.2.0.exe) in File Mode. Then compile your own DVD in TMPGEnc DVD Author (http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/download/tda.html) out of them using Add DVD Video button. It won't reduce the quality and warn you if the compilation exceeds DVDR size.
I'm trying to make my own DVD music videos using CD audio and movie clips. But I can't figure out how to digitize clips from DVD to use in video editing programs. i can only get video from firewire with a dv camera...but i really want to use some DVD footage to edit my own music videos... Again, rip the DVD in DVD Decrypter, but this time in IFO Mode. In the Stream Processing window you'll get a choice of demultiplexing the video stream into MPEG-2 file, which you can edit as required. Then build a new DVD in TMPGEnc DVD Author using the edited video and any audio. Keep in mind that any editing of MPEG video except simple cutting/merging is likely to decrease its quality.

skamikaze
15th June 2004, 04:04
thanks for the tips! the problem im facing now is i converted the dvd video clips into mpegs using dvd decrypter...but the audio is still in the vob format, and i cant import it to edit in adobe premiere. i wanted to take some clips of sound from movies as well to add in the music videos. any suggestions?

Dimmer
15th June 2004, 07:24
Audio can be demuxed out of the VOBs when ripping with DVD Decrypter the same way as video: IFO Mode - Stream Processing - select audio stream - Demux. However, most DVD use AC-3 audio, which is not suitable for editing besides simple cut and merge. 2-channel AC-3 can be converted to PCM (.wav) using BeSweet (see download page) and edited in that format.

skamikaze
15th June 2004, 22:49
again, thanks for the info. basically im trying to lay over sound effects over the main track. say like large explosions or car engines revving. but i cant do that in premiere with the vob file. i dont know how to convert it to an audio file that premiere will allow. you mentioned a program that converts the 2-channel to wav format, but will it be able to convert the 5-channel? ive been cluttering the hard drive with so much freeware. id like to know besweet can do what i need before i download it :) thanks again.

skamikaze
15th June 2004, 22:57
also one more question.

which would have better quality, avi or mpeg???
the avi playback seems to be smoother as i edit on my computer. but i dont want to compromise quality for convenience. i'll work with whatever will give me the best product.

amendment: i also looked around and saw this ripping program by imtoo. it seems to be a user friendly ripping tool. dvd>avi or mpg or vob etc. seems simple rather than using all these multiple programs to get the format i need.
but like i said, i dont want to compromise quality for convenience. just thinking what the drawback to using this program would be. i did a search and all i found was someone saying it stole the code from another program. any comments? thanks!!

Dimmer
16th June 2004, 02:52
Originally posted by skamikaze
basically im trying to lay over sound effects over the main track. say like large explosions or car engines revving. but i cant do that in premiere with the vob file. i dont know how to convert it to an audio file that premiere will allow. you mentioned a program that converts the 2-channel to wav format, but will it be able to convert the 5-channel? ive been cluttering the hard drive with so much freeware. id like to know besweet can do what i need before i download it. As I said, demux the AC-3 out of VOB first. The easiest way for you purposes is doing it during the ripping. Yes, BeSweet can convert AC-3 into 6 waves. What to do with them afterwards, you have to figure out for yourself. Read the guides (http://www.doom9.org/doc-overview.htm).

Remember: you're going to lose both video and audio quality as neither MPEG nor AC-3 were designed for re-encoding, which you'll have to perform in order to put them back onto DVD after editing.
which would have better quality, avi or mpeg???
the avi playback seems to be smoother as i edit on my computer. but i dont want to compromise quality for convenience. i'll work with whatever will give me the best product. AVI is better for editing but DVD can only use MPEG, which is a lossy format (i.e. quality is lost during each MPEG encoding).
i also looked around and saw this ripping program by imtoo. it seems to be a user friendly ripping tool. dvd>avi or mpg or vob etc. seems simple rather than using all these multiple programs to get the format i need. but like i said, i dont want to compromise quality for convenience. just thinking what the drawback to using this program would be. i did a search and all i found was someone saying it stole the code from another program. any comments? That software looks like a rip-off - just some bundled together freeware programs that you can download here for free. Anyway, unfortunately the task you've chosen is likely to cost you both quality and convenience. Due to the nature of source material, don't expect good results anytime soon if you plan to create a DVD out of it.

echooff
16th June 2004, 15:10
skamikaze

Go back to Dimmer's first post and look at TMPG DVD Author. The program is very easy to use, and has a 30 free trial. With it you can compile the clips you need directy from the vobs. No need at this point to de-mux either the audio or video. My method for doing this is rather time consuming and you may not wish to do it. The true bene fit is you extract only the portions you want in mpeg form.

1. Using dvd decrypter rip the dvd in ISO form (image file).
2. Use deamons tools to mount the image. Do a google search to get a copy of deamons tools (freeware).
3. Use Tmpg DvdAuthor to open the video from the mounted image, (appears as another drive) select the parts you want. The program will ask you if you want to save it to hard drive as a mpeg. let it do it. Once you have all the selections from this dvd you can unmount the image and delete it.
4. Repeat the above 3 steps for each dvd you want to rip from.

If you want to add sound effects to the audio you will have to de-mux (seperate) the audio and video you can use Tmpgenc to do that with its tools menu. Same web sit as dvdauthor.

Once your sound effects are added you can use dvdauthor to author your dvd into it's finished product. no need to mux (join) the audio and video because dvdauthor will accept them.

As for adding the sound effects, someone else will have to give help there. Sorry
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