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webwonk
28th May 2004, 11:54
Hi Karl,

Does RealProducer Plus 10 include the latest tweaks to rv10? For instance: Elysian, fast 1st-pass EHQ (50) - 2nd pass EHQ 85, HFE2, animation DropDupe pre-filter, Anamorphic encoding, plus all the other rv10 codecProperty tweaks?

What is the advantage over AutoRV10, RMFactory or Easy RealMedia Producer? (Besides a very nice GUI) Is RealProducer Plus 10's IVTC/De-Interlacer better than what can be achieved in AVISynth? Does RealProducer Plus 10 handle the rvmb format's variable framerate better than 3rd-party encoder? Is RealProducer Plus 10 able to input VOBs by renaming them to .MPG like WMEncoder is able to do for WMV9?

A lot of questions, I know; but if anyone can answer them, it's you. Thanks.

Web

Sirber
28th May 2004, 14:31
What is the advantage over AutoRV10, RMFactory or Easy RealMedia Producer? (Besides a very nice GUI) Is RealProducer Plus 10's IVTC/De-Interlacer better than what can be achieved in AVISynth? Does RealProducer Plus 10 handle the rvmb format's variable framerate better than 3rd-party encoder?All GUIs uses producer ;) Also, AVISynth filter better (HQ) than producer.
Is RealProducer Plus 10 able to input VOBs by renaming them to .MPG like WMEncoder is able to do for WMV9?If it's DShow readable, it can input whitout problem.

karl_lillevold
28th May 2004, 17:47
Originally posted by webwonk
Does RealProducer Plus 10 include the latest tweaks to rv10? For instance: Elysian, fast 1st-pass EHQ (50) - 2nd pass EHQ 85, HFE2, animation DropDupe pre-filter, Anamorphic encoding, plus all the other rv10 codecProperty tweaks?

Yes, it does, with caveats. See below.

Originally posted by webwonk
What is the advantage over AutoRV10, RMFactory or Easy RealMedia Producer? (Besides a very nice GUI) Is RealProducer Plus 10's IVTC/De-Interlacer better than what can be achieved in AVISynth? Does RealProducer Plus 10 handle the rvmb format's variable framerate better than 3rd-party encoder? Is RealProducer Plus 10 able to input VOBs by renaming them to .MPG like WMEncoder is able to do for WMV9?

The GUIs discussed in this forum have the advantage that the custom codec options are exposed. In the RealProducer GUI, most are not available except by editing a job file or audience file. For instance, the elysian rate control is not available in the GUI, you have to use vbrUnconstrainedBitrate in the audience. The RealProducer GUI has video preview, but since I do not need this, I never use it myself. I use Helix Producer cmd line, and edit one of my minimalistic audience files, or one of the front-end GUIs discussed here.

RealProducer's IVTC/de-interlace works about as well as Decomb, but in Avisynth/decomb you have more tuning options, and you can easily pre-view your settings.

Not sure I understand your variable framerate question. There should be no difference there.

With regards to encoding VOBs, yes, but you can run into the exact same problems as with any encoder when encoding these directly:

hard to find a compatible DirectShow filter
VOB files have to be extracted as one huge file
there may be problems obtaining 24 fps progressive frames
setting the cropping and aspect ratio correctly is very problematic
there are problems getting the correct audio track to be encoded
likely to be audio/video synch problems
surround sound information is not preserved.