Odd problem reading RAM discs w/Decrypter

[chas0039]

I have given up trying to do this but I am curious as to what was going on. I burned a DVD (small test) onto a DVD-RAM Panasonic E-50. I then went to read it with DVD Decrypter (current version) and made an ISO file which burned like a charm. I next went to a larger file of around 4 gig and Decrypter read just fine until the last 5% or so of the disk when it slowed down to almost nothing. I tried again on a different disk with a 3.5 gig file and got the same problem. I tried with a burner as well as a ROM drive. There does not appear to be any problem with the hardware as the entire file is readable and is able to be copied to the hard drive.

I am curious as to the cause and I wonder if there is any way to get around this. Thanks in advance.

[Dimmer]

Since the original DVD is not a commercial movie, there is no need to use DVD Decrypter in the first place because the disc isn't encrypted. You can burn a copy or create an ISO image with Nero or whatever burning program you like.

[chas0039]

I only want the ISO image so I can convert the VRO file that was created by the Panasonic into a standard DVD format on a DVD-R which I could do with the small ISO that Decrypter created.. Are you saying that I can read the RAM disc with Nero and create an ISO file on my hard drive. I have Nero 5 and have always been mystified as to its true abilities. Seems as though something is lost in translation no matter how many times I read the owner's manual.

Thanks

[Dimmer]

Not sure if the older version of Nero would recognize your DVD drives, so you might have to upgrade to ver. 6. If it recognizes your DVD-RAM drive, the rest is easy. Click DVD copy to copy the disc onto a DVDR. If you select Image Recorder instead of burner as a destination, it will create an ISO image on HDD.

However, simple copy won't convert VRO DVD into a standard DVD-Video. You will have to use an authoring program such as TMPGEnc DVD Author (http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tda.html) that accepts DVD-VR as input. In this case, you won't have to copy anything at all - the program would allow you to import the tracks from DVD-RAM drive and create a standard Video DVD, which you can burn straight away or with other burning program including Nero.

[chas0039]

Thanks again. What you are proposing is what I have wound up doing since Decrypter failed. It takes longer and it adds steps I don't need. Decrypter was perfect, at least with the smaller file, as it was a two step fast process. I would just rip to an ISO and burn to a DVD-R and the resulting disc was perfect DVD format, all with Decrypter. I still wonder why Decrypter failed at the edge of the RAM discs.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Did you try just reading the files off 1 by 1 in File mode?

I'd be surprised if windows lets you copy the files in explorer but my program does let you use File mode. Unless of course its something to do with the filesystem and my program is interpreting it incorrectly and trying to read data that doesn't exist.

[chas0039]

Yes, I am able to copy the file( there is only one)completely off the disc to the hard drive. I then can use TMPGenc to translate them into VOB files for a standard DVD format. A VRO file is created by Panasonic for their E-50 writer and others that use the RAM format. It is a single large file fith all the DVD information in it. When I try to use your program it says it is a non standard file and I should use ISO mode which worked fine the first time when I used a small VRO file to test. When I used your program to burn from the just created ISO file it did fine. It is only when I went to a larger file that it virtually stopped reading the last 5%. I have since found a work around with TMPGenc but it take forever because of the extra step to re-encode the VRO file which I have to read to the HD and then process and then burn. Decrypter worked in two steps and maybe it was being called on to do more than it expected to do.

Thanks for the response.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Oh right, its one of those weird discs! It's annoying when the thing just stops. Are you not getting 'Read Retries' or anything? Cancelling the rip should result in you getting a 'terminating read thread...' message in the status bar. Is that right or does it exit quite happily?

[chas0039]

It seems to terminate OK when I ask it. The rip doesn't really stop it just slows down to the slowest I have ever seen but I continue to see it read data.

[LIGHTNING UK!]

ok well what you could try here is ejecting the disc and reinserting it again.

The program will error out but you'll be able to retry.

oh... and the tray will be locked during a read operation so you'll need to uncheck the little box in the settings first!