Sex and the City

[mrwhitethc]

I know this has probably been done to death in another forum but I haven't found the answer. I'm trying to backup sex and the city and I do plan on playing it back through a projector not a TV. My question is what is the correct way to make it all progressive just use the interlace=false or decomb and the idct? I've tried what seems like 30 builds with settings being on or off and when the camera pans fast or cuts I can see scan lines. Is there a combo I missed along the way?

[onesoul]

Are you seeing scan lines with your projector? You shouldn't need change any setting with DVD-RB.

[mrwhitethc]

Right now i'm seeing scan lines on my monitor but only during cuts and fast pans. The thing is it also show's up slightly in the original. I would like to make it as close to pure progressive as I can since I can see it and it's very annoying.

[onesoul]

Ok, I'll try to help. Tv series are in general interlaced but if you plan to see it on tv you shouldn't deinterlace because you'll loose resolution and those scan lines aren't displayed anyway, in your monitor unless the player is deinterlacing you'll see scan lines.
You say you use a projector, at least to my knowledge they are capable of showing interlaced sources with no problems (showing the image properly with no scan lines).
So bottom line unless you intend to see it on monitor don't deinterlace.

[mrwhitethc]

Well I tried it on my roommates TV and I can still see the scanlines, maybe I just have too critical an eye but they are there. My projector won't be here for a few weeks so the only 2 things to test on right now are the monitor and a TV connected to an xbox. I know this might be beating a dead horse but any combo to get rid of those scan lines as it is the bit rate is fairly low, under 3000 so I am doing half D1 to keep from seeing the macro blocks and shimmering colors and a 3 pass encode.

[onesoul]

I once said that I could see scan lines on tv but that is fairly doubtful since all Tv's output an interlaced display (two fields consecutively) even if your source is progressive (there are some rare expensive progressive Tv's. Projectors (I think) adapt to progressive and interlaced souce). Seeing scan lines means you should be able to see those with other tv content.

The problem could be wrong field order but the movie would jump up and down too, DVD Rebuilder handles this well anyway, so how is your original dvd displayed?
But CCE is not that very good with interlaced encoding, procoder is much better. I had a dvd interlaced which even at 4000 kb/s it looked bad with cce encoding at 4 passes. So in order to keep menus and extras I transcoded with Recode/dvdshrink and the output was much better close to original.

[mrwhitethc]

I tried with shrink and InstaCopy 7 both show blocks and somewhat shifting color, interlace problem still there. Might be better if a transcoder did what ReMpeg2 could and resieze the video also to half-d1 but nothing has so far. I may just end up using TMpeg like I did with Six Feet Under but that took a few tries to get correct with field order and film=true or film=false in dvd2avi and was long ago. This seems like a good discussion though since the views seem to be high, glad I sparked interest or everyone is having the same problem and just brushing it off hoping it will get better :)

[mrwhitethc]

a note about the original everything seems all fine but if you go frame by frame every so often you'll hit interlacing it could be for a whole scene or just a fast pan it really does seem more random than anything but that is just what I have noticed while stepping through parts I saw the interlacing at. Anyone else wanna join in i'm sure the soprano's and six feet under are done in a similar fashion.