Problems converting DVD to SVCD

[bluehawke]

I use DVD2SVCD to backup my dvd. No problems with the first convertions (for the first 3-4 films). Now I've found lot of problems converting films (last one is "The last samurai"). After 30 minutes of good play the player seems to "loose" the track: the counter goes on, but no new frames comes up and a strong noise comes from the player.

I tried changing cdrom sopport but the problem stays in the same position (the same minutes and seconds in the counter).

I tried re-encoding the film but nothing changed.

In the dvd internal player of my pc I found no problems at all.

Some infermation about my system:

DVD player is Sony DVP-NS305 firmware : 1.902

What can I do?

thanks

Stefano

[killingspree]

hi and welcome to the forum!

did you change the media by any chance? or perhaps try reducing the burning speed!

anyway :logfile: would probably help ;)

cheers
steVe

[bluehawke]

Here I attached the log file.

And.. about the media: I used Traxdata media, Philips media and I tried on a CD-RW bulk media... no change!


.. LOG .. FILE ....


WNASPI32.DLL 4.6.0.1021
Key found: C000000001
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- 19/05/2004 0:05:42
- DVD to SVCD Conversion
- DVD2SVCD ver. 1.2.1 build 3
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Initializing
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob
Initializing finished.

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- 19/05/2004 0:05:46
- Free on drive C: 16246.28 mb
- Free on drive D: 10134.90 mb
- Internal rip
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Preparing vobfiles to be ripped:
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
- F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob

Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_2.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_3.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_4.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_5.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_6.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_7.vob
Ripping: F:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_8.vob
Framerate: 25000
Ripping finished. Speed: 6644

Trying to eject the DVD
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- 19/05/2004 0:23:31
- DVD2AVI
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Creating DVD2AVI INI file:
- C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.INI

Variable settings:
iDCT_Algorithm: 32-bit SSE MMX

Executing DVD2AVI.
Executing DVD2AVI. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DVD2AVI\DVD2AVI.exe" -CS=2 -YR=1 -EXIT -OF=[C:\temp\DVD2AVI_Project_file] -IF=[D:\temp\VTS_01_1.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_2.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_3.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_4.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_5.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_6.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_7.vob,D:\temp\VTS_01_8.vob]
Framerate: 25000
DVD2AVI processing done.

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- 19/05/2004 0:31:26
- Free on drive C: 16245.02 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- AUDIO Extraction
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Found AC3 stream id: 0x81
Filename: C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Audio1 delay: -88 ms
Framerate: 25000
Audio extraction finished.

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- 19/05/2004 0:39:15
- Free on drive C: 15838.34 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- AUDIO conversion
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Encoding Audio. Filename: C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3
Executing BeSweet. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe" -core( -input "C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3" -output "C:\temp\Encoded_audio_1.mp2" -logfile "C:\temp\Encoded_audio_1.log" ) -azid( -L -3db -C 0db -S 0db -c normal -s surround -g max ) -ota( -d -88 ) -shibatch( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -e -b 192 -m s )
Audio conversion of C:\temp\Extracted_audio_1.ac3 finished.

Audio conversion finished.

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- 19/05/2004 1:05:20
- Free on drive C: 15635.25 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Converting Pictures
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Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultTitlepicture.bmp
Converting: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\DefaultChangeCD.bmp
Finished converting pictures
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- 19/05/2004 1:05:30
- Free on drive C: 15634.25 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Video Encoding using Cinema Craft
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Executing Cinema Craft Encoder.
StreamSectors: 2495536764
AudioSectors: 215997208
VideoPAPO: 35311284
ScanOffsetBytes: 266124
SeqAligningBytes: 16913659
DVDBytes: 0
VideoEndHeader: 12
SubtitleSectors: 0
EmptySectors: 238.00
PictureSectors: 900.00
PureMPEGStream: 2227048477.33
Seconds: 8879.80
CalcMPEGStream: 2227048477.33
Frames: 221770
CDSize: 800.00
Number of CDs: 3
Cut point 795.00
Variable Settings:
Frames: 221770
Anti Noise Filter: Off
Passes: 4
Image Quality: 17
VAF file creation: On
Video Encoding Mode: Multipass VBR
Min. bitrate: 300
Max. bitrate: 2530
Avg. Bitrate: 2006
Aspect Ratio: 16:9 (borders added, encoded as 4:3)

---AVS Begin---
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~2\DVD2SVCD\AVISYN~1.5PL\Mpeg2dec\MPEG2D~1.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\temp\DVD2AV~2.D2V")
BicubicResize(480,432,0.0,0.6)
AddBorders(0,72,0,72)
Import("C:\temp\ResampleAudio.avs")
ResampleAudio(44100)
ConvertToYUY2()
----AVS End----

Closing program
CCE Max Speed: 1.560
Video Encoding finished.

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- 19/05/2004 8:58:47
- Free on drive C: 13458.50 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\temp\TitlePicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 19/05/2004 8:58:53
- Free on drive C: 13458.41 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\temp\ChangeCDPicture.bmp.mpg"
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- 19/05/2004 8:58:57
- Free on drive C: 13458.34 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Converting Pictures from ES to PS
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
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- 19/05/2004 8:58:59
- Free on drive C: 13458.34 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Multiplexing and cutting
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Saving bbMPEG settings: C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\default.ini
Offset in Seconds: 2
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2950 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 2952
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Length of C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
3035 Seconds
Offset in Seconds: 5987
Executing bbMPEG.
Variable Settings:
Movie offset: 2 seconds
Cut point: 795 mb

Executing RunbbMPEG. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\bbMPEG\RunbbMPEG.exe" "C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File.mpg"
Multiplexing and cutting finished.

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- 19/05/2004 9:14:01
- Free on drive C: 11081.39 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Determining length of audio
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Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
2952.438 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File00.mpg
Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
3037.936 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File01.mpg
Analyzing: C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
2883.474 seconds C:\temp\bbMPEG_Muxed_File02.mpg
Analyzing finished.

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- 19/05/2004 9:15:08
- Free on drive C: 11081.38 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 14

CD image #1: CD_Image_File_CD1.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD1.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD1.bin" "C:\temp\VCDXBU~1.XML"
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- 19/05/2004 9:16:54
- Free on drive C: 10275.14 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 16

CD image #2: CD_Image_File_CD2.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD2.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD2.bin" "C:\temp\VCDXBU~2.XML"
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- 19/05/2004 9:18:43
- Free on drive C: 9469.27 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Creating CD-Images using VCDXBuild
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- No. of chapters to create: 13

CD image #3: CD_Image_File_CD3.bin

Executing VCDXBuild. Commandline:
"C:\Program Files\DVD2SVCD\VCDImager\VCDXBuild.exe" --verbose --cue-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD3.cue" --bin-file="C:\temp\CD_Image_File_CD3.bin" "C:\temp\VCDXBU~3.XML"
Image creation finished.

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- 19/05/2004 9:20:16
- Free on drive C: 8670.89 mb
- Free on drive D: 3289.23 mb
- Conversion done!
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[killingspree]

moving the thread to dvd2svcd basics forum...

[r6d2]

Your log looks OK to me.

Since it plays back OK on your PC, an incompatibility may have arised with your player. I don't personally know your model, but please search on www.vcdhelp.com database to see which restrictions it has. Then report back.

I have experienced similar problems with certain media. My PC plays it perfectly but my standalone does not. This has been particularly notorius with some RW media, which lasts only "a few burns".

[bluehawke]

I tried converting the same dvd (the last samurai, i.e.) with the trial copy of #1 DVD ripper. After burning the *mpg file on the SAME cdrw media, it worked.

So I don't think the problem is the media, neither my stand alone dvdplayer. I suppose it's something "inside" the code.

For esample I saw that deselecting the flag for the sound dawnsample form 48kHz to 44kHz, my player has problems.

Thanks

Stefano

[r6d2]

OK, Now I suspect a muxing error. Try to rip the muxed MPEG files from the images created by DVD2SVCD (the .bin files). A good and easy tool to do this is VCDEasy. If the file can be ripped to the end with no error, then muxing was OK (you can compare the size of the ripped file with the original muxed one). Please report back.

[bluehawke]

Ok. I'll try to re-mux the file. Now I'm downloading VCDEasy.

Sorry for the stupid question, but I'm a rookie:

Should the file I obtain from VCDEasy be burned as usual or is there any other program to use before burning?

Thanks

Stefano

[r6d2]

Originally posted by bluehawke
Ok. I'll try to re-mux the file. Now I'm downloading VCDEasy.
Should the file I obtain from VCDEasy be burned as usual or is there any other program to use before burning?The file you will obtain by ripping from the SVCD image is not to be burned again. I only suggest you to rip it to see if it was properly muxed. VCDEasy will sort of undo the image creation done by DVD2SVCD, but if the ripping turns out OK then it was not a muxing problem, and then we'll see what to do next.

I hope this makes my suggestion more clear.

[bluehawke]

Ok, thank you very much:thanks: :cool:

Stefano

[bluehawke]

Hi.

I tried muxing the bin file. The bbMPEG_Muxed_File00 file is 813700 Kb and the avseq01 is 813700 Kb.


I also made a new try using D2SRoBa plugin: the position (=the time) where the player stops changes but .. it stops.


So, I think.. no news.



Goodbye

Stefano

[bluehawke]

I've tried re-ripping the same film using the D2SRoba plug-in but forcing to use 3 disks.

It worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well now a question: can somehow be a problem of "compression"? can be a too deep compression that the standalone dvd player cannot afford?

If this is the solution, how can I " force" the dvd2svcd to use only percentage of this compression?

Thanks for your help.

Stefano


(I had this idea considerind that the

"D2Sroba" output were 2 full disks: not working
"DVD2SVCD stand alone: 3 disks not full: not working
#1 DVD ripper: 4 disks not full: working)

[r6d2]

Yes, what you thought of is possible. Some players have probems with too high or too low bitrates, the latter is the case of an overcompressed movie. Please take a look at the specs of your player at the site I pointed out. Other people may be having the same problems as you.

[bluehawke]

Is it possible to define the bitrate instead of the number of disks?

How can I do it?

Thanks

Stefano

[r6d2]

Originally posted by bluehawke
Is it possible to define the bitrate instead of the number of disks?You mean with D2Sroba? Well, it would be sort of pointless. The "core business" of D2Sroba is to select the adequate BR and number of disks itself.

With DVD2SVCD alone you can limit the Min and Max, as well as the average. You don't seem to have followed my advice (which I gave you twice already) to look for your player's other user reports. So I did it for you. I found that several users reported failures to read SVCDs. Others say it works OK and give some hints. Apparently this Sony model does not support SVCDs with every firmware version. You might check with Sony the status of this regarding your particular player. You might even get an upgrade for free.

[bluehawke]

Yes, I already did what you told me.

I didn't report the result because it was (in my opinion) a non result:

I saw that there can be a incompatibility with oldest firmware, but I have a NEW one (a firmware that seems to be compatible with svcd) as I wrote in my first post.

Plus I saw that in the vcdhelp page none of contributors declared a lower bit rate value. Only an high value of more or less 2600-3000.

In the sony page and in the documentation NOTHING is reported.

I wrote to sony with no answer.

I think that saying this.. I add nothing interesting to solve the case.

That's why I directly asked if there was a way to set the bitrate value:
i don't know if this is a solution, but I probably should try to know the answer.

Bye

Stefano

[r6d2]

Originally posted by bluehawke
I saw that there can be a incompatibility with oldest firmware, but I have a NEW oneWell, the curious thing is that reports are contradictory with old and new versions of firmware. BTW, those Sony guys should have given you an answer, bad for them (and for you, unfortunately).

If you want to experiment, try setting the Min, Max and Min Avg values on the Bitrate tab of DVD2SVCD (use the FAQ and guides for tips and meaning). You may end up with a last image that is shorter that the others, but at least you'll be able to tell of the problema was BR related.

Don't use D2Sroba for now.

Please post your results.

[bluehawke]

ok..

I'll do.

thanks for your help.


Stefano

[bluehawke]

Well, I made lot's of experiment with many films: the bitrate for my sony needs to be "high". I saw that I have to store no more than 40 min in each cd.

So, if the film is 2 hours long, I have to use 3 cd. In this way it seems I've found the solution.

Bye