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q2no
18th May 2004, 09:35
Good morning all,

I started to backup some of my movies into SVCD.
Two SVCD movies on one DVD fits perfectly (just copy the un-muxed file and the AC3 file in DVD-LAB).
Since SVCD quality is not DVD quality, I tried the DVD2DVD option in DVD2SVCD but the size is again DVD size (4gig).
Is there a posibility to create 2gig files?
800, 900, 4350 and 4464 are disc size option..
Anyone here with a suggestion?

Thanks

-Q

DDogg
18th May 2004, 16:33
You just type in 2175 (or whatever is appropriate for you). This works both with D2SRoBa, or D2D as a standalone.

q2no
18th May 2004, 21:57
but what about the resolution?
Is there any way to fix 720 resolution instead of SVCD resolution?

- Q

Nick
18th May 2004, 22:01
If you select DVD output in the Misc. Tab, then a disc size of 2175 in the Bitrate tab, you will end up with half-dvd sized files at DVD resolution.

Hope this helps
Nick

jsoto
18th May 2004, 22:43
You can try Half D1 resolution, 352x480/576. It gives very good results.

To select that, first go to misc tab and select DVD2SVCD mode to advanced, and, after, go to frameserver tab and select resize to CVD

jsoto

jorel
19th May 2004, 02:04
wow....the search really works,i was thinking in post the same questions! ;)

@ DDogg,Nick,jsoto...
please,help me: if i want to put 2 dvds in one but with the original ac3-5.1channels,can i encode the video in d2s and mux the audio in ifoedit(or tmpgencdvdauthor) or do you have better hints?

DDogg
19th May 2004, 03:38
Hey, jorel, good to see you here. I am sure there are many good methods, but the one I use that works all the time is D2SRoBa and D2D (dvd mode). Set no images in the CD images tab. I just put in 2175 (I use +rs)into D2SRoBa, and watch the first few sample runs in D2SRoBa. So long as I see an acceptable Q, I let it finish and use DVDLab to author the resulting elementary files. The AC3 is already corrected by D2D if it was needed. DVDLab will import the chapter file created by D2D.

Btw, change the path to RunbbMPEG.exe in the multiplexer tab to a blank bat or something. I use RunbbMPEG.bat which is a blank batch file with just a REM statement in it. Do this if you do not want bbmpeg to mux the resulting files. This would only happen when no images are selected.

Of course, I do not use subs and so DVDLab may be a problem for you as it does not do subs. Scenarist will import the subs created by D2D for sure. I do wish D2D would build an SRT file so that DVDLabPro would import them. I keep trying to talk D2S into that, but have not met with much progress :)

Oh, as for resolution, just pick whatever you want in DVD mode. If it is 720x don't worry if you see the resizing filters. Avisynth is smart enough to know not to do anything if it is not needed. You should set the aspect ration in the conversion tab to anamorphic (may require you to have advanced mode set in misc tab) for anything other than a 4:3 full screen.

Personally when not doing any resizing, I use a quick script I made in the script editor in the frameserver tab. Type in a title of "NoResize DVD". Under than that I put 0=Undot() as the whole script. When not resizing I use this.

Using the above, I normally never have a problem getting 2 two hour 16:9 movies on one DVD at a Q32 or less. If I start seeing higher Qs, I typically use FACAR to do a 704x resizing. That buys a bit of extra Q. If still not enough, insert Deen() in your script. That will normally buy you 15-22 percent bitrate reduction, but of course slows you down a bit.

In the unlikely event that does not do it, use 1/2D1 which should cut your bitrate needs by another 45-50% if not using filters. Maybe 30-35% if you are using undot().Deen() already.

Remember, D2SRoBa handles restarts very well. Just keep letting it do the samples. If you don't like the Q you see just kill D2SRoBa and then CCE. Restart D2SRoBa. When it brings up D2D, go to misc tab and select restart. D2SRoBa will pop up a dialog allowing you to select the restart file. Set to restart at video encoding, make your changes in the script, or check edit as part of video encoding, then press restart in D2D. Manually change script if you have set that option. Repeat process until you are happy with the Q's you see and go have a beer or two. This is all very much easier to do that to write about :)

jorel
19th May 2004, 04:32
DDogg, i'm lucky! you don't send me hints but a great guide full of details :) thank you very much my friend! this page is bookmarked and saved in my hd of backup(folder called DDogg)!
i will use undot,HybridFuPP or Deen(i love it) with 720x480 or no resizes, without subs cos the sources are cartoons. i don't have DVDLabPro,can i author a new dvd in ifoedit using the ac3 and the video or i let bbmpeg(inside d2s)do the job?
one more question: we have the new BeSweet 1.5b28.can i change for that new version inside d2s folder or don't need?
thanks in advance! :)

DDogg
19th May 2004, 06:10
AC3 and video prepared by D2D should work fine in any DVD authoring program. Actually, see if the beta test (http://www.mediachance.com/dvdlab/historypro.html) of DVDLabPro is still available. It is fully working for 30 days.

As for BeSweet, don't ever change anything in DVD2SVCD until the author does, or says it is ok. Lots of things can get screwed up that way. In the case of BeSweet I do not think it would cause a problem, but you are not going to gain anything so why do it?

SallyDog
19th May 2004, 12:25
Originally posted by DDogg
Btw, change the path to RunbbMPEG.exe in the multiplexer tab to a blank bat or something. I use RunbbMPEG.bat which is a blank batch file with just a REM statement in it. Do this if you do not want bbmpeg to mux the resulting files. This would only happen when no images are selected...

Duh! I learn something new every day. Turning off bbMpeg has been bugging me for months. What a simple solution.

Thanks DDogg :D

DDogg
19th May 2004, 17:38
SallyDog, happy that helped, but it is just a workaround. I am on a mission from god to try and talk D2S into doing a few minor changes that would make D2D more elementary stream and custom authoring friendly :) The only problem is he really hates it when I get on one of my "missions" as I think he calls it :D

Speaking of this, any suggestions from folks doing hand authoring? I think nearly everything needed is there, but like I said, I don't do subs much and generally only do 2 source simple authoring with one AC3 using DVDLab so I could be missing some information for my 'mission'.

jorel
19th May 2004, 22:25
DDogg,
i did like your recomendations but got some problems,maybe i did something wrong but can't find...after CCE encode,d2s call it again and restart to use CCE but is choosed "one pass vbr" and i loose the first job. then i trash everything and restart(from zero) d2sroba call d2s from the begining. when CCE start i "paused" the d2sroba and wait for the "Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" from CCE and copy that file to another folder cos was afraid to loose the job again.after this i uncheck the pause in d2sroba but like the first time,CCE is called to encode all again. :eek:
i don't know what's wrong or what i did wrong!?!? :confused:

i have the "Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv"(1,99Gb)with the
"Extracted_audio_1.ac3"(210mb) saved in another folder!

do you want that i post the d2s and d2sroba logs? thanks in advance!:)

DDogg
20th May 2004, 00:01
jorel, no, don't need logs. I just want you to do it exactly like this :)

Run DVD2SVCD and make sure input file and output file are both DVD in the misc tab. Kill D2D. Run D2SRoBa, accept defaults and set 2175 as size. Press OK. D2D will run. Do as normal to set up your encode. Chose CCE multipass as encoding method. Don't ask, just do it :). Start as normal.

D2D will rip vobs, run dvd2avi, extract subs if chosen, andextract and correct audio as needed. It will then start the video encoding process. Shortly thereafter, D2SRoBa will kill D2D and will start to do the sample runs. After 3 to 5 samples it will begin the full encode (if you want to wait that long). Look down at the D2SRoBa log. Do you see a Q that you find acceptable? Like under 40? I shoot for Q28. If you are happy with it, then do nothing except have a drink. When the encode is finished, D2SRoBa starts D2D again and selects restart, normally at pulldown for ntsc, and D2D finishes just like normal.

If you are not happy with the projected Q from D2SRoBa in its early stage, follow this sequence.
Right click on the D2SRoBa tray icon and select exit.
Stop and exit CCE.
Run D2SRoBa and press OK.
D2D comes up again. Goto misc tab and select recover.
D2SRoBa will interrupt with a file dialog.
Choose the DVD2SVCD project file.d2s from your working directory.
Choose the restart point from dropdown. Normally Video Encoding.
Make any changes you want such as resizing or resizing script changes.
And/OR
select "Edit as part of video encoding" in the frameserver tab.
Press continue in the misc tab to restart at the selected restart point.

Process continues as before unless you have checked edit as part of video encoding. If so an edit window will pop up showing the avisynth script being used. You may carefully make changes. DO NOT press OK yet. Press "save" and go to the working directory and 'play' the AviSynth_Script_file.avs in VDub or media player to make sure you did not dork something. If plays OK then press OK on avisynth video editing window.

Process continues as normal. Hopefully the second time around you get what you are looking for. As said before, this all sounds so much harder than it actually is. Writing it makes it sound complicated, whereas it is actually a very natural process.

Btw, of course a restart will overwrite your previous files. That is what you are telling it to do :) Take your time and do not get into a hurry. Once you understand this process you will get the best quality and fastest encodes obtainable. This is very easy to do. I have the "Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv"(1,99Gb)with the
"Extracted_audio_1.ac3"(210mb) saved in another folder!
May be just fine although I don't know how you got them into different folders :) They should not be.

jorel
20th May 2004, 03:03
ok DDogg ...you post:
"I don't know how you got them into different folders"
i post about that....i pause d2sroba after d2s close and when CCE end the job(choosed one pass vbr),i copy the "Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" to another folder but d2sroba was "paused",then after copy, i uncheck the pause in d2sroba...but is irrelevant. :p believe, i have some great
encodes from d2s but i never had tested d2sroba before...
i'm redoing now exact like you posted!
thanks!
:)

jsoto
20th May 2004, 22:30
Originally posted by maa
http://www.dvdshrink.info/compilation.php

Thats the easiest way!


That means, let DVD2SVCD do the job completely with dvdauthor, scenarist (or even mDVDAuthor :) ) . You will have one set of VOB files per each movie.

Follow dvdshrink guide, and that's all.

You will not have any menu, neither the possibility to add it, but it's really the easiest way.

jsoto

EDIT: I've never used it, I like to do the things as complex as I can imagine.... :D

jorel
21st May 2004, 20:23
@ jsoto
we have a thread called "DVDshrink quality compared to CCE?"
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55844
and in the 6th page i post comparisons and CCE for me is better than dvdshrink for 2 movies in one dvd:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=55844&perpage=20&pagenumber=6
Originally posted by jorel
i'm not expert but did my tests:

using toy story 1 & 2 in dvdshrink:
compression settings-->automatic
toy story 1 main movie,only one ac3-5.1 ---> 52,2%
toy story 2 main movie,only one ac3-5.1 ---> 49,7%
for a full dvd size target (DVD-5 (4.7GB)adjusted in preferences)!

the same with CCE 2660107 using --> Q10:
toy story 1 main movie,only one ac3-5.1 ---> ~1,70Gb
toy story 2 main movie,only one ac3-5.1 ---> ~2,15Gb
got ~3,90Gb in hd...(i don't burn cos i'm doing menus)!

CCE give less size, better quality(sharpness,bright,details without blocks)
using filters(undot,deen,asharp,levels,dctfilter) in avisynth script!

:cool:

edited>
more details:
was used the vmesquita template for cce266:
http://www.jltoca.uaivip.com.br/vmesquita.htm
following his guide here:
http://kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5142

but this is only my opinion!
:)

jsoto
21st May 2004, 20:44
Hi jorel:

Seems you have not understand what I'm saying (may be I was not clear enough, sorry if it is the case)

What I'm saying:
let DVD2SVCD do the job completely with dvdauthor, scenarist (or even mDVDAuthor ) . You will have one set of VOB files per each movie.
Use dvd2dvd mode with all the movies you want to put in the same DVDr. So the movies (titles) will be encoded with CCE (and D2SRoBa if you want).

And, after that, use dvdshrink authoring feature (not the transcoding one). Check the link, it's clear. If the total size of the titles you add (the ones encoded with DVD2SVCD) is less than the DVDr size, dvdshrink will not do any transcoding, but will join all of them in the same DVDr (with only a few clicks), which is the subject of this thread

jsoto

jorel
21st May 2004, 20:47
@ DDogg
i follow your recomendations(guide as i call ;) ) and now i have the "Encoded_Video_CCE_NTSC.mpv" and the "Extracted_audio_1.ac3"then i stop ds2 and d2sroba....waiting for more hints my friend! :)

jorel
21st May 2004, 20:57
yes jsoto,i misunderstood! :o sorry! i knew that dvdshrink guide and now i know what you mean, thanks! :)

edit>
that guide is cool jsoto but i did using tmpgencdvdauthor with menu and chapters that is easy to use but maybe you or DDogg have another better way to author!

DDogg
23rd May 2004, 17:02
Jorel, with those two file, or actually Pulldown_Encoded_Video_NTSC.mpv if ntsc progressive source you can follow any of the recent Doom9 guides for DVDLab or TMPG DVD author. There should also be a file called "DVD Maestro Chapters File.chp" from which you can import chapter settings. At least for sure in DVDLab. The beta test I linked above is a fully working version.

jorel
23rd May 2004, 17:26
:)
thanks my friend! i know that great guides from Doom9 and i will follow the TMPG DVD author..great hint about "DVD Maestro Chapters File.chp"! :D great!

seems OT but it's not... i was aking about you DDogg, please take a look:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76702

jorel
25th May 2004, 15:46
DDogg my friend,the result is amazing,d2s with CCE250 still champion!
;)
thank you,the result is amazing,no need more details,you know that!

can i "copy" your guide here and post in others forums(3 forums) with all credits,links and references ? "everybody" will like it!
:) thanks again!

DDogg
25th May 2004, 17:40
I am happy to have you link to this post anywhere you would like to do so. This was just a sloppy down and dirty 'how to do it' reply to you. Certainly would not qualify as a guide, so I would not like to see it copied to other forums as such :)

Oh, a bit of new news you will enjoy hearing. Tylo is working on the next version of D2SRoBa that will allow a conditional filter to be used in DVD mode. When this is available, I would expect fairly soon as it seems very stable to me, a lot of the stuff above will not be needed anymore. D2SRoBa will do the first sampling pass attempting a user specified Q target. If it finds it can't achieve it within the space allocated, it will then kick in the conditional filter and use that to achieve the best Q it can within the allocated space assigned to it. This new feature of D2SRoBa makes it as close to perfect as I could imagine. Just some really damn good work on tylo's part. Terrific stuff!

jorel
25th May 2004, 19:11
well,if a lot of the stuff above will not be needed anymore, better is wait for the news.

wow,great news from Tylo(d2sroba)! all i can say is: "d2s with new d2sroba and QuENC(as i saw in d2s read-me) is more than Terrific stuff"...is a dream coming true! :) i can't wait..or better,...i have to wait! :p

thank you very much DDogg (no matter the "title", you're still a great mod)!
:)

jsoto
25th May 2004, 19:56
no matter the "title", you're still a great mod
Agree, we are very lucky to have DDogg rounding here...
jsoto

jsoto
14th June 2004, 01:15
HOW TO include subpictures and/or two audio tracks in TMPGDVDAuth authored DVDs with 2 or more D2S generated movies.

TMPGDVDAuth does not support subpictures neither a second audio track but it is a very simple and nice authoring tool. I was playing with subs/audio limitations, and may be other users can find my results useful.

Tools needed (may be not, but useful to have):
BlankVob
DVDpatcher
IfoEdit

I've been working with different scenarios, using CVD/SVCD resolution, and also with/without scene selection menus. As you probably know, SVCD resolution is not supported in DVD standard, so special care has to be taken in this case, but, AFAIK, a settop able to play SVCDs is also able to play a non-standard DVD with SVCD resolution.

In all cases, I've run DVD2SVCD in DVD2DVD mode, and let D2S to author a DVD (of reduced size). (D2S+mdvdauth is also OK).
So, I have the encoded movies in one/two VOB files, created by DVD2SVCD.

A) CVD Resolution
A.1) Main menu only. No chapters menu. The fastest method!!.
1.- Capture and save one picture per movie, to be used in Main menu. I use powerDVD for this.
2.- Start BlankVob. Create a blank VOB (simple), with 1 Cell of CVD resolution.
3.- Start TMPGDVDAuth. Create a new project adding one track per each film, using the blank VOB.
Use Add file to add each clip, not Add DVD
4.- In Create menu phase, modify the pictures with the ones previously stored/captured.
5.- Generate the output of TMPGDVDAuth. It will take only a few seconds, VOBs are blank ones :) .
6.- First movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Move all files VTS_01_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAUTH,
7.- Second movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Rename all VTS_01_?.??? to VTS_02_?.???
Move all files VTS_02_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAuth,
8.- Third movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Rename all VTS_01_?.??? to VTS_03_?.???
Move all files VTS_03_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAuth,
....
9.- Open VIDEO_TS.IFO (in output folder of TMPGDVDAuth)with IFOEDIT. Do "Get VTS sectors".

That's all.

A.2) CVD Resolution. With chapters menu.
Exactly the same procedure , but you cannot use the blankvob trick. Chapters should be read from D2S generated VOBs:
1.- Start TMPGDVDAuth. Create a new project adding one track per each film, using D2S generated VOBs (use add DVDvideo).
TMPGDVDAuth will offer you the pictures for main movie menu and chapters menu
2.- Generate the output of TMPGDVDAuth. It will take a while...., and the generated VOBs will not be used :(
3.- First movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Move all files VTS_01_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAuth,
4.- Second movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Rename all VTS_01_?.??? to VTS_02_?.???
Move all files VTS_02_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAuth,
5.- Third movie: Go to D2S output folder and:
Rename all VTS_01_?.??? to VTS_03_?.???
Move all files VTS_03_?.??? to the output folder of TMPGDVDAuth, overwriting the ones created by TMPGDVDAuth,
....
6.- Open VIDEO_TS.IFO with IFOEDIT (output folder of TMPGDVDAuth). Do
"Get VTS sectors".
That's all

B) SCVD Resolution
B.1) Main menu only. No chapters menu.
Exactly the same procedure than A.1. Remember to generate a CVD/DVD resolution BlankVOB, to avoid compatibility problems with TMPGDVDAuth.

B.2) SCVD Resolution with chapters menu.
SVCD resolution is not allowed in DVD, and TMPGDVDAuth does not allow it. So you cannot add a track with this resolution without patching it. The procedure will be:
1.- Patch the VOB files with DVDPatcher to 352x480/576
2.- Apply the procedure A.2
3.- Patch again the output VOB files to recover the SVCD resolution.
The "problem" is the pictures extracted by TMPGDVDAuthor for the menus. They will be decoded as 352x480/576 and will not look fine.
If you do not like them, other possibility is to capture previously the pictures with a SW player like PowerDVD

I hope this notes help someone.

BTW, there is a table in VIDEO_TS.IFO which has a copy of audioand subs VTS attributes. This table is not updated in these procedures, but , AFAIK, the table is unused by the settops.

jsoto

jorel
14th June 2004, 03:39
Originally posted by DDogg

Chose CCE multipass as encoding method. Don't ask, just do it :). Start as normal.


DDogg, sorry to ask but please, remove that final doubts. D2SRoba open as default "one pass vbr". i'm choosing "CCE multipass" like your recomendation and the numbers of passes are 3. using 3 passes, i see CCE open 2 times only after Roba search the final Q. time to encode is not a problem for me, then,
if i change to 4, D2SRoba will follow that number of passes or nothing will change? :confused:
thanks in advance! :)

@ jsoto
thanks for that completions(really cool)! :)

edited>(the morning after)
DDogg,i did a sample with round five minutes from source and nothing is change using 3 or 4 passes in CCE multipass with Roba,was a little sample but means that no matter the numbers of passes Roba will always work in the same way with multipass vbr?....sorry my dumb questions! :o
thanks!

jorel
26th June 2004, 16:44
hy all :)
i have "more" dumb questions! :o

i'm still in doubts using 3 or 4 passes in CCE multipass with Roba, like i asked in my last post. have differences or the numbers of passes are irrelevants? :confused: ...my short tests don't give me security.

@ jsoto
how to put subs for dvds (not cvds or svcds) resolutions using your guide? (if is possible)

thanks in advance! :)

jsoto
28th June 2004, 18:43
Hi jorel,
3 or 4 passes in CCE multipass with Roba AFAIK, D2SRoBa always does the same algorithm. These choices in D2S are irrelevant. The magic of D2SRoBa is to do only one pass OPV (well, may be two in some cases), so the choice of 3/4 in D2S is simply unused.
how to put subs for dvds resolutions using your guide? Exactly the same procedure than CVD. Even if you are using 704x480/576 (although I've never tested this resolution with TMPGDVDAuth).
The "special case" is SVCD resolution because it is not compatible with DVD standard.

jsoto

jorel
28th June 2004, 21:24
thank you dear friend jsoto,you was very clear and remove all doubts.
:)

ChickenMan
30th June 2004, 10:37
Jorel, why you need to setup D2S in Multipass VBR mode first (set to any number of passes you like as it never finishes the first pass) is that when RoBa starts running (after shutting down D2S), it uses the VBR Bitrate calculated origianlly by D2S in its first calculation of achieving the optimal Q value. Therefore, it can find the optimal Q value normally in 1 or 2 test passes, otherwise it can take 3 or 4.

EDIT: Use Maestro (or DVDLab Pro) if you want Subtitles or extra audio streams included.

Also think about down sizing 5.1 ac3 to 2ch AC3 to save bitrate and lower Q value. You will need to do this manually after the encode, but set the lower Audio bitrate (I use 192) in the Audio tab of D2S before you start encoding. A CD Size of 2225 works well for 2 dvd's on a DVD-R's with a bit of elbo room as well.

jorel
30th June 2004, 11:44
hy CM, my pleasure see you here my friend(in dvdrbase or in any other forum) :)
why i need to setup D2S in Multipass VBR ? was DDogg recomendations in the first page of this thread:
Originally posted by DDogg
jorel, no, don't need logs. I just want you to do it exactly like this :)

Run DVD2SVCD and make sure input file and output file are both DVD in the misc tab. Kill D2D. Run D2SRoBa, accept defaults and set 2175 as size. Press OK. D2D will run. Do as normal to set up your encode. Chose CCE multipass as encoding method. Don't ask, just do it :). Start as normal.
like DDogg wrote,"choose CCE multipass..." and "Don't ask,just do it" and i ,afraid to break some rule :p (just kidding) did exact like his "order".(jorel,do that...your're dismiss) :p
later i came back here and asked about CCE multipass to remove this doubts using Roba, this is the reason!

for 2 movies in one dvd media,we have good space/compression from Roba/CCE and the audio size will change just a little for that target.
i really want good audio and my choice stills in only one track AC3-5.1 from source without reencode!

thank you for that hints about maestro and dvdlab pro.
:)
best regards my friend(great mod/adiministrator)

ChickenMan
30th June 2004, 11:57
Yes I agree about the audio, however if your trying to squeeze two 2hr movies to one dvdr, then you need every bit of bitrate space you need. AC3 at 192 2ch is also excellent audio. Downmix to WAV in Surround II mode with BeSweet. Then convert to AC3 with SoftEncode or Sonic AC3Enc will still give you Prologic II surround sound.

I use to always put 2 avi conversions to a dvdr, but never 2 dvd's. No point since dvdr blanks are so cheap in my part of the world, maybe not for yours. I've just bought a DVD Player that plays AVI's directly, so no need to convert them either. Six 700mb AVI's to one DVDR, I love it :D

jsoto
30th June 2004, 19:12
Not absolutely sure, but I believe CCE Video encoding mode selected (CBR, Multipass VBR or One pass VBR)is not used by RoBa and also irrelevant. Even more, D2S always calculates the average bitrate (and this value is the one used by RoBa)

I think DDogg's advice about "don't ask" is because of "Calc bitrate as max" setting. If you select Multipass, this setting and also Create vaf, are disabled, and you will not be able to check this setting by error. Anyway, IIRC, the last versions of RoBa uncheck this setting automatically, or, at least, change the default value to unchecked.

See this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76092)

jsoto

jorel
29th August 2004, 03:39
@ DDogg and jsoto
as i told months ago,you can turn this thread in a guide. i'm still doing that way, sending people to use it(they are using)and this topic can't be faded without new posts!

DDogg
29th August 2004, 04:14
Howdy, jorel. Most of my blather was made obsolete when tylo in his kindness added the conditional filter to dvd mode. Now, assuming the conditional filter is configured correctly, all that stuff is done automatically. If D2SRoBa sees it can't achieve the requested Q then it kicks in the conditional for DVD just as it does for svcd. There should never be much of a need to interrupt the encode now as I had once suggested. As was mentioned, he also dealt with that pesky "Calc bitrate as max" setting and it is now handled automatically for the user.

Anyway, thanks for the kind words. As to this acting as a guide, I nearly think we should delete this thread as some of the info may now be confusing. Tylo took care of most of it in D2SRoBa 3.6x