BatchCCEWS 0.9.1.5 beta

[JuanC]

Originally posted by MicroMij
... this isn't true? You need the VafFix=1 setting for previous versions of BatchCCE. You don't need that with this last one (0.9.1.5 beta). Take a look at this post from BBWoof (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=500415#post500415) in this very same thread.

BTW, this is his last post. He hasn't been around here since May :(. I hope he can come back from "sabbatical" with a gift for everyone: a new release ;)

[Justn]

Originally posted by JuanC
That's not normal: Do you mean the vaf creation? Is it creating the vaf file twice? If so, make sure you are using BatchCCEWS v0.9.1.5 beta & ECLCCE 1.81 and check your ECLCCE.INI file (usually in the woosoft\batchccews folder) for the parameters VafFix and create_new_vaf. They should be =0, or shouldn't exist. Hope that helps.

i've actually been having problems with this happening. none of my elcce.ini files have a create_new_vaf command. any ideas about what i should do?

[JuanC]

Originally posted by Justn
... none of my elcce.ini files have a create_new_vaf command. any ideas about what i should do? Check those things you've just quoted. Also, having more than one ECLCCE instaled (or several eclcce.ini files) could be giving you problems. If you use BCCE, just leave the one in the respective folder.

[hendrix]

it doesn't matter what field first you encode with Progressive material, progressive is frame-based NOT field based, thats why it's called progressive.

... (Q10) ... So here is the rule of thumb: Always uncheck "Upper Field First" unless your video is interlaced AND bottom field first. Progressive material is always top field first. ...
is wrong

[Trahald]

Originally posted by hendrix
it doesn't matter what field first you encode with Progressive material, progressive is frame-based NOT field based, thats why it's called progressive.

... (Q10) ... So here is the rule of thumb: Always uncheck "Upper Field First" unless your video is interlaced AND bottom field first. Progressive material is always top field first. ...
is wrong

thats not totally true.. using bff means the video would be shifted down by one row. now its not a really big deal (it wouldnt cause any jerkiness for progressive playback ). but if your going to make an faq and you say it doesnt matter, purists would say the creater of the faq would be wrong. so to be accurate the faq would have to say , use top-field-first for progressive.

[hendrix]

Originally posted by Trahald
thats not totally true.. using bff means the video would be shifted down by one row. now its not a really big deal (it wouldnt cause any jerkiness for progressive playback ). but if your going to make an faq and you say it doesnt matter, purists would say the creater of the faq would be wrong. so to be accurate the faq would have to say , use top-field-first for progressive.
but progressive doesn't use fields it uses whole frames...

interlaced is 50(PAL) or 60(NTSC) images per second, but each image is only half of the scanlines of the complete picture at given time. one half of the image starts top-field first, then the other half of the image starts one row shifted down...

that's not the case with progressive material...the whole image or frame is shown at once...it's doesn't use fields

this whole got me thinking....im going to make some progressive stuff of my own and see what happens with the fields criss-crossed

[Trahald]

i think your not understanding what cce does with the video.. all it does is shift the video down by one row of pixels (your source) when you pick bottom-field-first. nothing more exotic.. cce encodes everything as either fieldbased or frame based @ top field first. so progressive material would be shifted down by 1 line. it would play fine however.

[hendrix]

Originally posted by Trahald
i think your not understanding what cce does with the video.. all it does is shift the video down by one row of pixels (your source) when you pick bottom-field-first. nothing more exotic.. cce encodes everything as either fieldbased or frame based @ top field first. so progressive material would be shifted down by 1 line. it would play fine however.
ahhh..ok...now i understand - makes sense

[Talayero]

Originally posted by JuanC
But remember, in this last version of BCCE the TFF/BFF behavior is inverted: If you check "Top Field First" it will instruct CCE to not change the field dominance. And Viceversa

Well, I didn't know that. I've been using this version for a month or so and made a few backups of my dvds. I did them the way I was used to, that now turns out to be wrong: when they were tff I didn't check "Top field first", and viceversa.

Should I worry about that? I mean, I've just checked a couple of scenes of one of them and it seems to be alright.

What are the results of checking wrong the ttf box/offset line in a mpeg2 compression by cce?
I think to remember that it could cause some interlaced effects. I wouldn't like to have to check a dozen of backups from beginning to end.