Big 3 questions

[Cholerabob]

OK i looked around but can't find the awnser.... I'm new to the Big3, when i start Doit4u i select the main pgc only and the languages and subs that i want. I then uncheck all others, but when i get to reauhtorist, i get a low bitrate on the main pgc of around 1895...I was told it's a known problem with CCE, is there a way to get around this ? How come if i uncheck (unselect) the other pgcs it still keeps them in reference? How can i rip only the main with menu ? I looked at alot of guides but none deal with this (everything always looks so easy) .

Thanks for the help.

[NobbyNobbs]

If you uncheck the other VTS`s, you are telling the program that you do not want to reencode them, so of course the bitrate for the main movie goes down, as you are keeping the extras at full size without encoding :(

You should read the guide on Doom9, Digital Digest also have a great guide for the "Big Three"

[Trahald]

Big 3 was intended for Full Backups. Thats why your having a hard time finding information about butchering. Im not saying it can't be done, but its not supported. You may want to get a few complete backups under your belt before you step out of the normal procedures.

[Cholerabob]

But won't the quality of a full backup drop if i use it and keep main movie 16:9 widescreen + extras + full screen movie ??? What's the point if you are suppose to use this to get the best quality if you can't control what you keep ?

[Darklistener]

You can control what you want to keep.
Trahald want you to do a full backup job to get experience.
If you got it you can control it :)

[Trahald]

Originally posted by Cholerabob
But won't the quality of a full backup drop if i use it and keep main movie 16:9 widescreen + extras + full screen movie ??? What's the point if you are suppose to use this to get the best quality if you can't control what you keep ?

Drop? well its not a drop to me because i never consider not keeping everything. If i were to use another method i would want everything as well. For keeping everything , big 3 is the best quality method ive found.
Having said that, You can gain quality for the main movie by killing stuff, that is true. But for me that is not even something i'd entertain.

And yes. Darklistener was saying. I think you would benefit from practicing full backups before you try to butcher. Burn them to dvdrw to test.

[Sn8kbordin]

Check the extras in DIF4U and then uncheck them in Reauthorist. This way the extras you wanna lose are gonna be substituted by dummy files, leaving more space for the main movie

[Darklistener]

You can also delete them before you use dif4u.
They are normally in another vts then the main movie.

[jel]

You can also delete them before you use dif4u. i would highly recommend NOT doing this.
the structure of DVDs can be very sensitive to any modfications made (particularly when you are not aware of the consequences) and by deleting entire VTSes without fixing the navigation, will ,99.9% of the time, produce issues with playback.

[Darklistener]

Thats right but it shoudn't be such a thing to get right of that with ifo- and menuedit.
You also have NuMenu4u Scenarist Version where you can fix it.
(Didn't tried it yet because of no time)

[jel]

why do some people always have to go around making life more difficult than it needs to be ....

just because you CAN do something, it doesn't automatically infer that it should become standard practice.
i mean seriously...

with applications such as numen4u, it is now possible for me to easily insert a 5 second clip of my arse at every menu transition ... but why would i go around telling this to someone who has barely finished installing the programs (no offense intended) ... not that i would recommend this practice to anyone...but do you get my point?

as Trahald has stated, the big 3 method is designed to be used for a COMPLETE back-up. movie, menus, extras ... the works!
yes, you can have full control over the procedure and adjust things to suit your preference but you need to know what you are doing ... and if you dont?
well dont blame me when your next back-up freezes on your standalone...

now if you want to know how to make the highest quality complete back-up of your DVD, then i will help you every step of the way...

[Darklistener]

Jeah but if live is too easy it wouldn't be interesting ;)

I didn't said it should become standard or something like that.
I would laugh at someone if he wants to make it.

I only wanted to say that it is possible, not that he must do it.
He can do what he wants, right?

Why wouldn't you telling him that you can insert clips? If he likes the idea, he will somehow learn to do it.

I didn't like advertisements on my dvd, do you?
It was also 300mbs of it so i wanted to delete it.
My first try didn't worked and so I asked why.
Thanks to all the people who helped me I learned fascinating things.
Thats my piont :)


Big 3 and all programms around it are realy great.
Admireable work