AVSedit suggestion

[nicco]

I think AVSedit is really a powerful app to manage and create avs script, it lets the expert uset to manually compile the script and the newbie to simply "click and go". The accessibility of help content for each filter is great.
I think in the next release (maybe with avisynth 3) you should integrate it with a sort of "filter-order suggester". So when I apply a series of filters (for ex. deinterlace,resize,convolution3d,convertto....) avsedit tells me what is the order I should (or I must) put them.
I dont't know if it'posible, but I think it would be a very useful function.
What do you think?
Bye

[stax76]

I'm not very motivated to continue the development since the feedback is very poor which implies there are only very few users and people are generally happy with notepad. Replacing the texteditor dll that ships with the new SharpDevelop IDE fixes some flaws btw.

[Wilbert]

I have no idea how much users there are. But I do know that there are (on average) 30 people a day looking at my AVSedit guide (during the four months that the guide exists). So, there must be many people who are using it ;) Perhaps people are satisfied with the latest version :)

[stax76]

that's great, so the current to do list is

the bug with the help

the new SharpDevelop text editor control (was released yesterday and works without any changes) which fixes some flaws and adds some features (need to be enabled)

@nicco

I'm not sure if there is a strict order. What might be a help is to save some templates. Such I feature could be done but I'm not sure if many people would use it. Anybody else a opinion on this?

[Wilbert]

Nice! I have to finish the analogue cap guide first, but after that I will update the docs. Then we can release a new version.

Btw, I saw on sourceforge that someone made a portugese translation?

[stax76]

Btw, I saw on sourceforge that someone made a portugese translation?


yes, here is the message:

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=482675&aid=934597&group_id=57023

[Wilbert]

Did you include it already? Then the item can be closed :)

[stax76]

I do not remember anything :( but it's in cvs and in my local dir with the same TortoiseCVS backcolor as the other files so I've probably committed it, it's not in the credits yet however. I'll work and close the two tracker items assigned to me and the other things as soon as possible! Sorry about the delay to the authors, I'll reply faster in the future (in the DVX repository there are open items as well :( )

edit: it must be a update because the filesize is different

[Fizick]

Why AVSEDT does not use Avisynth 2.5 html help file, which is more recent ordinary?

[Wilbert]

Why AVSEDT does not use Avisynth 2.5 html help file
It does (with some tweaks). If Dolemite compiles a new AVSEDT, you will get them:

1) The xml files (filter descriptions). In principle that are based on the html, but a bit outdated. You can get updated ones here [1].

2) The chm file, which is just a compiled html file. An updated one can be found here [2].

[1] http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/avisynth2/AVSEdit/filters/
[2] http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/avisynth2/AVSEdit/help/

[stax76]

Hi,
I was inactive on all projects I'm involved for some time, I'm starting now however to work on AVSEdit since I got bigger plans with the other projects.

[Fizick]

Wilbert,
I say about sharing the same html Avisynth help (both general info and filters and plugin descriptions ) between Avisynth and AVSEdit.

Dolemite,
I not quite understand your plans comparison, :)
but we will wait you, please ! :)

[stax76]

I say about sharing the same html Avisynth help


I think it would be better to invoke the help files that are included with AviSynth, since it's framebased normal html I would have to code a little workaround to show the navigation frame, shouldn't be a problem I hope. I'll change it if nobody protests.

[stax76]

Hi all,
I asked Doom9 to change my username from Dolemite (bad a$$ movie character) to stax (soul label) which is a little more serious and shorter.

I did like promised a little work on AVSEdit, I moved release files and folders (including the filter descriptions!) to a sub dir called binary to seperate release files from source files and deleted the old locations. I prepared a setup file with ISTool (AVSEdit_1.1.0.0.exe) which is located in the root dir, this new version is not tested very well.

Biggest changes are a script header which hopefully helps to make the application more popular and a new setup script (inno setup including a pascal script function that shows a message if dotnet is not installed) and of course changes made to the filter descriptions and help files.

Frank

[stax76]

commited two fixes for the text editor component

http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/Forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6689

if somebody made a quick test then maybe it can be released (admin need to do it right?), the file is called AVSEdit_1.1.0.0.exe and is located in the root dir

[Wilbert]

Will test it tomorrow if nobody else tests it.

Btw, you should ask Sh0dan to release it.

[Wilbert]

It looks good! afaic you can ask Sh0dan to release it.

Btw, just curious. Why did you dump the nsis installer?

[stax76]

It looks good! afaic you can ask Sh0dan to release it.


I've sent him PM, maybe he is reading here as well :)


Btw, just curious. Why did you dump the nsis installer?


I think inno setup is the best free installer. It's a clean inf like config file that can be generated by a assistant and edited really simply with a very good GUI which saves the user from editing the file by hand which would require to read the documentation to learn about the instructions which of course takes time that could be used to work on the core application.

[Fizick]

Thanks fo update!

But as i see, new help file is still CHM?
:confused:
I think it would be better to invoke the help files that are included with AviSynth

It will be in next version?

[Arachnotron]

@stax

Looking good!! Thanks for the new avsedit. And yes, I do use it. A lot. :D

[Fizick]

Stax,
some words about installing.

I install AVSEdit as Administrator (win2000),
and when I logon as user, i have error message about ascess to "settins.bin". It is in c:\Documents_Settings\Administrator path.
Well, I change path of it in options, but now the same setting.bin is used for Administrator too.
I think, else AVSEDit must use one common "setting.bin" in AVSEdit dir during Install, or several such files per user in Documents_Settings\user...

[stax76]

all: sorry about the late reply, I think the board software don't likes me, my account got looked 2 times within 2 weeks


But as i see, new help file is still CHM?


currently I don't know what to think about the topic, maybe let the user decide between htm and chm with a option?


I install AVSEdit as Administrator (win2000),
and when I logon as user, i have error message about ascess to "settins.bin". It is in c:\Documents_Settings\Administrator path.
Well, I change path of it in options, but now the same setting.bin is used for Administrator too.
I think, else AVSEDit must use one common "setting.bin" in AVSEdit dir during Install, or several such files per user in Documents_Settings\user...


the reg key that points to the settings file is under "local machine", changing this to "current user" would be the easiest I think


Thanks for the new avsedit. And yes, I do use it. A lot.


thanks for the appreciation, I don't want to disappoint anybody that invested effort in the application and therefore I try to maintain it as good as I can

[Wilbert]

currently I don't know what to think about the topic, maybe let the user decide between htm and chm with a option?
I was under the impression that you wanted to replace the xml files by the html files?

Compiling the chm files from the latest htmls is trivial.

@Fizick,
The chm file is just a bunch of html files attached to each other. They are the same ones as the htmls included with AviSynth.

[stax76]

I meant invoking the htm files directly, keeping htm and chm in sync shouldn't be a problem from my part however so as far as I'm concerned we can leave everything as it is

[Guest]

I'm a happy user of AVSedit, but I'm having trouble with LoadPlugin. Does anyone else? Does AVSedit automatically load the avisynth/plugin folder?

Anyway I'm getting an error when I use LoadPlugin - saying that its unable to load the plugin though I gave it the direct adress.

And without it it doesn't know the function(from the plugin).

I don't know if this is avsedit related?

Thanks for a great editor,

Tin2tin

[stax76]

Hi

AVSEdit uses like VirtualDub the avifile API, not like a media player DirectShow. To track down the problem you can open your script with various applications and see if they behave different

stax

[Fizick]

stax,
I have one question and one suggestion.:)

Q: Why AvsEdit is too slow? At load stage and in preview window.
May it be optimized?

S: Can default source directory be not constant, but simply current file.avs directory?
I like put avs to source dir, and use filename without dir, as
Avisource("input.avi").

Thanks.

[stax76]

Why AvsEdit is too slow? At load stage and in preview window.
May it be optimized?


I think there are many reasons, main reason is probably .NET as platform and programming paradigm and the usual suspect IO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input/output).

Optimizing is always possible but the outcome might be disappointing unless you design all of your components from scratch with your performance goals in mind and don't use too many third party components that might add overhead and might not be optimized for the requirements of the application.

Most of the time development productivity and architecture can't be harmonized with execution speed and you end up finding compromises.


Can default source directory be not constant, but simply current file.avs directory?
I like put avs to source dir, and use filename without dir, as
Avisource("input.avi")


I assume many people like to work like this, thanks to point out this weakness

[EddieTH]

I've been using AVSEdit for quite a while now, and I just found out about the new version. I'm very impressed with the improvements. Excellent work!

[stax76]

I was working a little bit on the code and had some ideas on optimization, it's however not simple and I need to read a book (Petzold on Win32) first