subtitle issue with rebuilder

[The_Flash]

Yikes, I just noticed that the subs aren't working on my last backup with v0.51b. They don't show when checked in WinDVD either.

[jdobbs]

@The_Flash

Download the latest version (0.51c)... My subtitle removal code was defaulting to "remove" if you didn't specify which ones to keep in the setup area.

[The_Flash]

Ahh, that makes sense. Good catch.

[Centurione]

Hi,
also my confirmation that making a process step through DVDRemake solved my subtitles problem.
I tested it also on previous jobs that in my player were not showing subs, I copied again on the HD, (just to save encoding time) then made an exporting with DVD remake and burned on a DVD-RW.
Now the subtitles are working !.

regards, Centurione

[Fastolfe]

Well Done jdobbs,

I can report excellent news on that front with beta 0.52 (just did a rebuild from a previous test that was NOK with previous builds), it is for sure fixed for my standalone player, subs are showing perfectly.

Hope it will be the case for all the others that were facing the same problem.

Now I am a happy camper...

Thanks for the effort/time spent and sorry for the headache we caused you...

FF

[jdobbs]

That's great news. I found the PTM error in comparing NAVPACK contents before and after they'd been run through DVD ReMake. Several users had reported that the subs worked after... Since I couldn't repeat the problem the best I could do was hope this fixed it.

[Joergen]

That's brilliant! I hope others can verify this.

It lifts the last mental stone off the back of dvd-rb and finally makes it as all-round *compliant* as the BIG3. :)

[Bootsy]

Just tried it with two projects and the subtitles work on my standalone now. Nice work.

[Joergen]

This seems to have also fixed the rewind over chapter weirdness in Windvd, and possibly some standalones?

[Bootsy]

Originally posted by Joergen
This seems to have also fixed the rewind over chapter weirdness in Windvd, and possibly some standalones?

Hmm, haven't experienced this. But then I seldom watch my movies in reverse ;) You mean rewinding over a chapter break? I'll test when I get back from work.

[jdobbs]

This interesting thing is that I still don't know why the start and ending PTM for a VOB would cause this... and why only certain machines/engines were dependent upon it (but to be clear: I'm not making excuses, it WAS a bug in DVD-RB).

It just goes to show you -- nothing can be taken for granted in DVD authoring.

[onesoul]

jdobbs, could this problem be the origin of freezing end chapters specifically on the meaning of life disc? I will try again soon and report back.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
jdobbs, could this problem be the origin of freezing end chapters specifically on the meaning of life disc? I will try again soon and report back. Not sure... but possible.

[Centurione]

Hi,
this message just to confirm that version 0.52 solved subs problem on my standalone (AMSTRAD 2320). (it took some time to encode LOTR 3 on my PIII 600 with some filtering)
Thanks very much to Jdobbs for his wonderful job.

Regards, Centurione

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Centurione
(it took some time to encode LOTR 3 on my PIII 600 with some filtering)

I bet! I was getting pretty anxious when I had to do it two times over with 3 fast PC's using RBFarm ;)

Thanks for the report btw.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Centurione
Hi,
this message just to confirm that version 0.52 solved subs problem on my standalone (AMSTRAD 2320). (it took some time to encode LOTR 3 on my PIII 600 with some filtering)
Thanks very much to Jdobbs for his wonderful job.

Regards, Centurione Just for the sake of scale, long did it take?

[Centurione]

30 minutes prepare, 23 hours encoding (2 pass only), about 30 minutes to rebuild.
Quality is acceptable to my eyes (it is not perfect but I knew that it was hard).
I just add a simple undot().deen() after having cropped the black bars, and then add them again with addBorders(). (I do not know if it works saving time, but it seemed to me that in this way I avoided to filter also the black bars).

regards, Centurione

[nwg]

I have done the same DVD with a XP2000 and 3 pass. Phase 1 took 9 minutes, Phase 2 took 10 hours and Phase 3 took 17 minutes. I also noticed it isn't perfect (the average bitrate was 2.5 megabit/sec) but, 99% of the film looks fine.

I haven't had any of these subtitle problems and apart from a little pixelation problem at a chapter. I have had no problems with DVD-RB since the very first version.

I guess I have been lucky. :)

[Joergen]

LOTR is near impossible, but I was able to do it in a way that semi-satisfies me by compressing the menus and remapping the 2ch audio and keeping only it.

Then again I've done some other full 8GB discs with just the movie, and they come out perfect. LOTR ROTK is not the best example of quality when the original is concerned, if it wasnt a bit blocky to begin with, it would encode/look better.

[RB]

Just wanted to confirm that subtitle problems with my JVC standalone are fixed with 0.52. Great job, jdobbs! :)

[=coDec=]

Sutitle issues no longer a problem with my Alba set top.

@jdobbs - thank you sir!

[Joergen]

:) me so happy

[jdobbs]

Me too.

[quantum]

So am I, because that means we're down to two big issues: seamless branching/angles and what was that other thing I kept bringing up? :)

[jdobbs]

I'm CC not CC sure?

[RB]

Well, given that BOV seems to be working (almost (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75470)) perfectly now, may I suggest considering menu reencoding? :) As the code seems to be already in place, this should be relatively easy to implement and probably could be done before attacking the interleaving issues.

[wmansir]

I'm going to mark this one fixed in known issues.

I also just added the BOV/Stills issue.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Well, given that BOV seems to be working (almost (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75470)) perfectly now, may I suggest considering menu reencoding? :) As the code seems to be already in place, this should be relatively easy to implement and probably could be done before attacking the interleaving issues. I think I may need to relook at BOV a little. My method leaves the original IFO intact, and as I am rebuilding I look for BOV information in the NAVPACKS of the original stream and merge them into the new NAVPACKS. It appears to work most of the time... but I have what seems to be a timing issue somewhere.

[AllTimeSToneD]

Well im not really sure if this is allready a "known issue". The subtitles for the extras are placed wrong when "Half-D1" was used, the screenshot was taken with media player classic and "save image". I tested diffrent players Zoomplayer and VLC also. And the result is the same :scared:

http://aoi.bakaotaku.net/~alltimestoned/killbillextrasubs.jpg

Used DVD-RB 0.53

[jdobbs]

They're not supposed to do that. Have you tried it on a standalone? The Half-D1 image is normally resized before the subtitle overlay is done...

[JDay]

I have the same result with MPC. Works fine in every standalone I've tried, however.

[Ntsita]

Originally posted by jdobbs
They're not supposed to do that. Have you tried it on a standalone? The Half-D1 image is normally resized before the subtitle overlay is done...
I did also LOTR_ROTK with mode half-D1, and the subtitles are wrong displayed with a dvd palyer software (WinDVD). Is there a manner to remake the subtitles with half-D1 mode, too?

[jdobbs]

No. Actually I think resizing the subtitles would make it stop working on standalone players, and possibly even WinDVD. I'd have to say this is WinDVD's problem -- not DVD-RB. But frankly, I'm not sure I've read a definitive answer anywhere on this.

[Joergen]

Half-d1 and subtitles work fine for my WinDVD4 (came with Geforce card). So, its not even a WinDVD problem, and of course most definetly not a problem on standalones since its in the standard.