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emdiem
29th April 2004, 11:19
From what I know I hsall not edit and make my own cutts with interlaced material. I shall deinterlace it and cutt, edit and render the final as interlaced mpeg.


I use Vegas for my cutting and I really dont know how to setup the perfect settings for it. I normally work with PAL and i nowdays make the vob into a progressive PAL file.

Now i have started to order stuff from a dvd pool in the UK and its all NTSC interlaced ... sucks so bigtime. What is the best for me to do? I have read all about IVTC but really not got the hang out of it. I have CCE, TMPGEnc and the normal freeware that this site recomend but the parts with NTSC is so blury in this forum i think.

Is there such thing as progressive NTSC perhaps?


EDIT
this is what the .d2v file has in it when created with dvd2avi:

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=5 (1:MMX 2:SSEMMX 3:FPU 4:REF 5:SSE2MMX)
YUVRGB_Scale=1 (0:TVScale 1:PCScale)
Luminance_Filter=0,0 (Gamma, Offset)
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0 (ClipLeft, ClipRight, ClipTop, ClipBottom)
Field_Operation=0 (0:None 1:ForcedFILM 2:SwapOrder)
Frame_Rate=29970
Location=0,0,0,17FB8

.. lots of numbers ..

FINISHED 0.00% FILM

Malow
29th April 2004, 18:09
vegas by default edit in interlaced mode, it handle interlacede video and everything. so edit with interlaced source to inderlaced file is fine.

rfmmars
30th April 2004, 05:28
Yes you can make progresive NTSC, but what are you going to play it on? I think you want to convert it to PAL.

The NTSC blurryness can be caused my many things. One if you are playing the DVDs in a multi standard player, thats one problem, and second, if you are using again a multi standard tv/monitor, that another. You need to use for playback units built for the NTSC for use in those counties, not for export to PAL countries.

Here in the US,we high end Video stores that sell Europe design NTSC expensive monitors, and the picture looks like crap!

I do alot of s-vhs NTSC interlace tapes 29.97, and convert to 59.985 progresive. They looks real good. the next step for you is frame rate change.

Look at www.100fps.com for a real good over view on this matter.

Last thought. I am sorry to say that here in the US the so called video engineers, most of them would know a good video signal if they saw it, and there are a lots of just bad film transfer on DVD.

richard
photorecall.net

emdiem
30th April 2004, 15:50
Originally posted by Malow
vegas by default edit in interlaced mode, it handle interlacede video and everything. so edit with interlaced source to inderlaced file is fine.

In the project properties i must choose deinterlace method .. blend feilds / interpolate fields / none

shall o take none and then start my editing? Alos there are motion blur types that i really dont know what to pick. any suggestions?


Originally posted by rfmmars
Yes you can make progresive NTSC, but what are you going to play it on? I think you want to convert it to PAL.

richard
photorecall.net

yes i would love to make them PAL progressive but i tested with some settings in CCE and it started to shake, texts that was in the video also parts of the image, really bad convertation. But it feels like its best to keep the original format, but when i do that i cant mix and choose of all my videobank files to be used in the same production.

"No The Same Color" really made my life suck =P

rfmmars
30th April 2004, 20:42
Hey hang in there, it's not as bad as you think...try things.

richard

hendrix
1st May 2004, 06:46
Originally posted by emdiem
In the project properties i must choose deinterlace method .. blend feilds / interpolate fields / none
i would suggest editing in interlaced...IMO Vegas doesn't do a very good job in deinterlacing and your footage will worse...if you really want to create progressive then i suggest using Magic Bullet Suite (http://www.redgiantsoftware.com/magbulsuit.html) it does an incredible job deinterlacing - by far the best ive seen...we shoot DV NTSC and convert our footage to Progressive and it looks great...of course you have to shoot with the shutter at 1/60...1/50 for PAL