Big undersize problem

[the-warriners]

Just done Kill Bill region 2 PAL with DVD-RB 0.45

I used all the default settings for RB and CCESP2.67 trial

The files came out at 3,921,294 bytes which is way under sized.

Still looked great though ;)

Anything I might be doing wrong. I didnt choose to half bitrate the extras.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by the-warriners
Anything I might be doing wrong. I didnt choose to half bitrate the extras.

You aren't probabably doing anything wrong. It was reported by several people that when you resize extras to half d1 you could have an undesize problem. jdobbs is looking to fix this. If you want to use this option now you'll have to set CCETargetSectors under option tag in rebuilder.ini. Try a value of CCETargetSectors=2260000.
Bye

PS This could lead you to oversizing problems.

[the-warriners]

But I didnt resize extras - unlesss this is the default

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by the-warriners
But I didnt resize extras - unlesss this is the default

you selected the option Half-D1 and Half space for extras, didn't you?. Half D1 means you are actually resizing.
Bye

[the-warriners]

No.

I just had dynamically assign cell bitrates ticked.
I downloaded 0.45 and started with a brand new ini so everything was at default values.

[P3gasus]

Sorry I didn't read correctly this passage of your first message: " I didnt choose to half bitrate the extras." So I was thinking you did use half bitrate for extras. Dunno why you are having such a big sizing problem without having that option turned on.
Sorry.

[oddwunn]

Yup, I am having the same problem here with the "Looney Tunes Golden Collection" episodic DVD. I'm using defaults, and my resultant complete files are just over 1.5 gb.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by oddwunn
Yup, I am having the same problem here with the "Looney Tunes Golden Collection" episodic DVD. I'm using defaults, and my resultant complete files are just over 1.5 gb.

This should be an avisynth configuration prblem. Did you whatch the final output files? Are they showing the correct content?
Bye

[the-warriners]

Mine looked fine.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by the-warriners
Just done Kill Bill region 2 PAL with DVD-RB 0.45

I used all the default settings for RB and CCESP2.67 trial

The files came out at 3,921,294 bytes which is way under sized.

Still looked great though ;)

Anything I might be doing wrong. I didnt choose to half bitrate the extras. There must be an error in the way I deallocate space from half-d1 streams and apply it to the main movie. I'll take a look at it tonight.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by oddwunn
Yup, I am having the same problem here with the "Looney Tunes Golden Collection" episodic DVD. I'm using defaults, and my resultant complete files are just over 1.5 gb. ???? 1.5GB ??? That's more than an undersizing problem.

[the-warriners]

Just to be clear as my original post might not be - I used ALL default settings for 0.45, no half d1, no half space extras - nothing.
Just bog standard CCE 2 pass with dynamically assign cell bitrates which is the default now too.

Previously I have just dropped the new exe over the last one and i was getting good sizing.
This is the first time I have started with a new INI so maybe some of the default changes to vbr_bias and quality_prec have caused it.

I have always used the "original" defaults of these values before this.

Hope this helps

[nwg]

I have done the same Kill Bill DVD. I have done it twice two ways using CCE and 2 passes.

First Way

I went into shrink and compressed the extras to 60% then put the results into DVD-RB. I selected Half-D1 for extras and got a DVD at 4.26GB. I kept both the DD and DTS sound.

I watched the film and it looked perfect, I then watched the extras and thought they were not worth doing.

Second Way.

I put the DVD through Titleset Blanker and blanked all the extras. Then I put the files through DVD-RB and did it again (both DD an DTS). The files turned out at 4.31GB.

Did you take out DTS?

[the-warriners]

I didn't take out anything

[Joergen]

I did kill bill r2 with rb42 with cce2.66 at default settings (3pass, no dynamic) and it came out 4.32GB as it shouldhave.

[the-warriners]

I will try later older versions of DVD-RB and also turning off dynamic allocation to see if I can work out what has changed.

[oddwunn]

This should be an avisynth configuration prblem. Did you whatch the final output files? Are they showing the correct content?

No, The main menu looks fine, but the rest of VTS1 is just black with some yellow garbage at the bottom of the frames.

Maybe I need to check "add to avs file" next to the MPEGDEC3DG path?

???? 1.5GB ??? That's more than an undersizing problem.

Yup, I am following wmansir's guide to the letter, but I am having a real hard time getting things running smoothly. I am using default settings, as I know very little about the internal workings of CCE. Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

[oddwunn]

Alright, I ran the same title on another machine and everything came out fine. I checked very carefully and all settings, versions of CCE, ini files, etc. are EXACTLY the same on both machines. One works perfectly and the other one produces results like I described above. The only difference that I can figure is that the one that is working is a 3.2 ghz P-IV Northwood with a hyperthreading mobo, with minimum software installed. The non working machine is a 2.4 ghz P-IV Northwood non hyperthreading mobo, but this machine has LOTS of video oriented software installed. The only thing I can figure is that some other piece of software is interfering with the proper operation of DVD-RB. The problem is that the 3.2 ghz machine won't be here much longer, so I have to figure out a way to make the 2.4 ghz machine work...:confused:

[RB]

What about "Remove all DTS" in the settings? Was that enabled/disabled on both machines?

[Joergen]

For my own part I can say I always save "remove DTS". The DTS checkbox itself wont let you save (save button is grey), but if you click a language on and off then you can save the Remove DTS checkbox too.

[P3gasus]

@oddwunn

Did you check "add to avs file option" related to mpeg2dec3dg.dll? If so try to redownload that file and to use your new copy. If that doesn't work try uninstalling and reinstalling avisynth 2.54.

Bye

[oddwunn]

Thanks, Pegasus, I'll give that a shot! :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by the-warriners
Just to be clear as my original post might not be - I used ALL default settings for 0.45, no half d1, no half space extras - nothing.
Just bog standard CCE 2 pass with dynamically assign cell bitrates which is the default now too.

Previously I have just dropped the new exe over the last one and i was getting good sizing.
This is the first time I have started with a new INI so maybe some of the default changes to vbr_bias and quality_prec have caused it.

I have always used the "original" defaults of these values before this.

Hope this helps Does anything work? If you have a 1.5GB output I have to guess that you had an original that had 1.5GB of "small files" and menu files... I have a hard time believing you've successfully encoded the movie portion.