Liteon LVD-2001 and newest XVID

[Xtropy]

I am downloading a lot of new videos from BitTorrent and they are all encoded in XVID but they don't play in my player. The video starts to play and freezes, both video and audio. A few seconds later I get maybe another second or two of video and audio and freezes again. I have tried about 10 different videos and all seem to have this problem. I am assuming that this is due to the newest version of XVID because any video I downloaded a month ago or earlier played (and stil plays) perfectly. However, I've encoded a bunch of video using the RC4 release and don't have this problem. Could it be a bug with an earlier release (RC3 or something)? I am trying to encode video with this codec to reproduce the problem and I am not having much luck.

Anyone have any ideas or things I can check?

Thanks in advance,

Xtropy

[bond]

Originally posted by Xtropy
I am downloading a lot of new TV videos from BitTorrentread the rules again, especially rule 6

striked

[Xtropy]

I removed the offensive word. My appologies for being so careless. :rolleyes:

Xtropy

[bond]

well you dont seem to get the point! doom9 is not the right place to ask for help when having troubles with "downloaded videos"
and we are not going to discuss everytime someone posts something like this, whether the content is copyrighted or not, the chance is high that it is the case and thats enough to not allow such discussions
doom9 is a community which cares about not being on borderline to illegality or beyond

plz get to know the forum before you post!

[oddball]

This board is suffering from copyright paranoia and overzealous moderators. Sometimes it's unavoidable to mention copyrighted material. When people mention they are trying to rip such and such a movie I find that more questionable than "I am trying to playback a movie I got from such and such P2P network". As long as you don't actually mention the name of what you downloaded it should hardly matter as you may just as well have downloaded a totally legitimate copyright free movie. People assume too much on this board and are ruling with an iron fist.

Every now and then I see people like Doom9 commenting on the main page about how our freedoms of speech and rights are being eroded away. Yet the forum itself is doing just that because of overzealous, overcautious mods reading too much into the rules.

[bond]

oddball, plz dont mix things up!

freedom of speech doesnt include that you are allowed to break the law. we are not the ones who make the laws, but we are the ones who have to respect them to keep our community alive

someone posting about downloaded TV videos can easily talk and critize, he doesnt risk anything, but doom9 risks a lot when people start talking about illegally obtained content on his forum, never forget that

[Xtropy]

I asked Bond to delete my post since it was such a violation but I think he enjoys making an example or something. No big deal, there are lots of other people that have offered to help on other DIVX boards.

Thanks for the post Oddball,
Xtropy

[beezle]

But let's say I just tried encoding a "home video of my kids" with the new xvid rc3 codec. It doesn't play on the RJtech 1500 player either. So you are not the only one with problems with the new xvid codec. The divx players are already obsolete with respect to xvid. Things seem to be moving toward xvid. This is not good.

[three_dee]

I've tested the new rc4 on my kiss dp-500, worked fine

settings were:

profilelevel AS@L4
adapt. quant
b-vops 2, 1.50, 1.00
packed bit. closed gov
trellis quant
croma motion
turbo
max i-frame intv. 240

the problem isn't xvid, the problem relies in those so called 'release groups' don't know jack about encoding properly. Encoding to achieve the best possibly quality, thus aiming for hardware compilance isn't nesseceraly impossible at all.
To aviod this the developer(s) could choose to make a n00b option from the drop-down menu saying [mpeg-4 hardware generation 1] thus graying out all the option, which the current level of hardware players choke on (qpel gmc etc). Many normal users and rls groups would clearly benefit from that (none mentioned, none forgotten)

[beezle]

three-dee, i've done some further testing and it looks like you are right. It may not be the xvid rc3 codec after all. I have other rc3 encoded files (which I forgot about) that work on my player.

However, at this point i'm not sure what codec is not supported on my player.

The audio for the file that doesn't work is MP3 ABR encoded. I don't think that is the problem. I know for sure that CBR and VBR (which can be quirky) work fine.

My player tells me that QPEL is not supported when there is a QPEL issue. Maybe it is a gmc issue.

Anyway, I will update if I find anything else out.

[manono]

Hi-

To see if GMC was used with your XviD .avi, open it with DRF Analyzer (http://www.geocities.com/analyzerDRF/). If it shows a certain percentage of S-Frames, then it won't play in any standalone made today.

[beezle]

Frame Type Statistics :
I Frames: 2.86%
P Frames: 16.82%
B Frames: 51.54%
S Frames: 28.78%
N Frames: 0.00%
(More Advanced Codecs use B and S frames)
Frame Quality Statistics :


Does 28.78% S-frames mean that gmc was most likely used?

[Leak]

Originally posted by beezle
Does 28.78% S-frames mean that gmc was most likely used? [/B]

Since S-frames are the frames where GMC was used I'd definitely say yes...

np: Luomo - The Present Lover (The Present Lover)

[three_dee]

tnx manono for the link to DRF analyzer - great tool, I've been missing such without even knowing it ;)

@beezel - let's know your test-results; mpeg-4 hardware owners can benefit from it.