.kkrieger (a 3D Shooter in 96k)

[Amnon82]

K first this post has nothing to do with MPEGEncoding or so. But this Game is so amazing SO I MUST tell You.

Some guys from Austria started to code a new game called .kkrieger.
It is about a guy who have troubles with some aliens.

The game is coded in Visual C++ and x86 Assembler. The best thing is:

-it is freeware
-it is only 96k big
-it will kill doom3

You don't believe me? Here is the link to my new page: AMGames (http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/AMGames.php).
...and here the Projectpage: theprodukkt (http://www.theprodukkt.com/)

Have fun with it! :D ... I have!

P.S. these are the system requirements:

- A 1.5GHz Pentium3/Athlon or faster.
- 512MB of RAM (or more)
- A Geforce4Ti (or higher) or ATI Radeon8500 (or higher) graphics card
supporting pixel shaders 1.3, preferably with 128MB or more of VRAM.
- Some kind of sound hardware
- DirectX 9.0b

[avih]

LOL, someone finally made a combination from the demo scene programming techniques and gaming :)

however 2 things:
1. it doesn't have reverse mouse-Y control (that terribly mess my play)
2. it's terribly slow on my machine (2-5 fps). maybe i should reduce the desktop resolution before running it again.

other than these, prety cool :)

[Amnon82]

On my machine (AMD 2800+; Epox 8KRA2+; 785 DDR 2.5; 2x80 Maxtor SATA; MSI GF5 5700 Ultra 128 DDRII; WinXP) it works like a charm.

Maybe they fix the requirements in the final. I played the game in 5 Min throu the end. So it is a short game. :D ...till now! It is still beta... What I found out:

The planed a trilogy.

These are the controls of the game till now:

W - forward
S - backward
A - left
D - right
[Space] - Jump
Left mouse - shoot
1-5 - switch weapon

Nice to see the textures. Still wondering in which way the coded it to get THIS amazing size...

[theReal]

Doesn't seem to work with my Radeon 7500, too bad :( :(

[mf]

That owned! But it seems I'll have to get a hardware upgrade, Athlon 2500+ with Radeon 9800 Pro didn't really like all that detail *too* well. Get the inverse mouse fixed though! I feel like I'm drunk playing it without inverse mouse.

[communist]

Originally posted by theReal
Doesn't seem to work with my Radeon 7500, too bad :( :(
Yep doesnt work with mine too :|

[Mug Funky]

ah! good news travels fast. my geeky (but not as geeky as me) friend showed me this just yesterday. slow as a newt wading through treacle, but 96k is goddamn amazing.

generative textures, l-system levels and characters and a super-tight engine i guess.

[edit]

okay, just downloaded it... it's 98k! dammit, there's 1 selling point gone. 96 i can handle, but 98 is just HUGE :)

[Tuning]

Screen shots are amazing......(I cannot test bcoz no GeForce4 Ti)

And it feels difficult to swallow, a game can be in 96KB.:eek:

[avih]

Originally posted by Tuning
Screen shots are amazing......(I cannot test bcoz no GeForce4 Ti)

And it feels difficult to swallow, a game can be in 96KB.:eek: well, you should have played head ovel heels (spectrum, comodor iirc too) to see what they could do those days with 32/48k ram :)

@Mug Funky: they state that if you calc K=1024 then it IS 96K ;)

btw, it's 'decompressing' about a 30-40 secs (didn't measure) on my machine. they say they just keep 'source' of the designer work, and kinda compile it when u launch the exe to get all the 3d models to be used during the game. as i said, a game with 'demo' programming techniques ;)

@mf, drunk, yup, that's how i feel too without inverse mouse ;)

here's a quote from their page (http://rj-elektronik.de/avideo/KKRIEGER.php)- We do .not. have some kind of magical data compression machine that is able to squeeze
hundreds of megabytes of mesh/texture and sound data into 96k. We merely store the
individual steps employed by the artists to produce their textures and meshes, in a very
compact way. This allows us to get .much. higher data density than is achievable with
normal data compression techniques, at some expense in artistic freedom and loading times.

[Atamido]

It runs a little sluggish on my Athlon 2100+/Radeon 9800 Pro. Not to bad though. There are a few amazing things. In the room with the pillar that is rotating on the ceiling, look as the dents in it and how the light reacts with it. Amazing.

[Mug Funky]

hehe. yeah, i realised the 98k was the compressed download, and the exe was 96k. i forgot about the help file.

i can't play the game here - p3 733, geforce 2 Mx400. not high-end by any stretch of the imagination.

i have seen it playing though... it's very impressive that they've achieved that kind of flexibility with generative levels/textures.

i've seen some cool stuff with l-systems (the brain-ride intro to fight club was "grown" in softimage using l-systems, and is a fairly accurate representation of a real brain), but nothing with the flexibility to make textures and models the way the artist wants (with some concessions of course, but no more than a regular fractal-texture proggy)

[Slogra]

It runs reasonably well on my Athlon2500+@3200+ with Radeon 9800 pro, but Far Cry runs better :p . I never got far in the game, cause sooner or later i get stuck in a pillar or somethng.

[AudioVideoMaster]

Runs pretty damn good on my P4 3.0Ghz... dual channel DDR 512MB... ATI AIW 9600 128MB computer.

Overall easy demo. Though it is a bit linear... but great for such a small file size in a world of 1GB plus installs for single games.

[Nic]

Thanks for the link Amnon82, nice little simple game that with gorgeous effects (seemed to run absolutely fine on my radeon 9500pro/ AMD 1800XP), shame they dont release the source or more info about how its created...

-Nic

[rasta21]

...if you want some more....breakpoint 2004 ended few days ago

http://www.scene.org/

...here are the results

http://www.scene.org/file.php?file=/parties/2004/breakpoint04/results.txt

..and here the result for the 96kb games contest

96k Game
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
334 .kkrieger - .theprodukkt
297 B-Clopd 3D - Adventures in Plattformworld - John Trapolka Memorial Krew &
Creative Mind
172 Raptor in Javascript - Tycoon
86 Cubes 50k - Red/Razor1911
38 No Moles! - T$
24 Barcade - Jiri

...and hey...amiga kicks pc ass again ;)

[mf]

Ah! You know, turning off antialiasing (though .kkrieger ignores antialiasing and displays it all jagged anyway) helps a lot in performance. I actually finished the game this time :). Really cool architecture - there may be some taken away freedom by this generative stuff, but it sure as hell looks original :). If they actually ignored the 96k stuff, and, say, went for a 1.44MB game, they could've actually made it a more worthy game, with opponents dying and sound effects not sounding really crappy. And, perhaps, some real physics ;).

[avih]

Originally posted by mf
Ah! You know, turning off antialiasing (though .kkrieger ignores antialiasing and displays it all jagged anyway) helps a lot in performance... hmmm, i'm gonna try that when i'm home :) thx for the tip. iirc lately i set my card with all quality settings on. that's gotta hurt ;)

[atreya2011]

It doesnt even work on my Radeon 9700 PRO :mad: Does anyone else have the same problem?

[buzzqw]

With P-IV 2.8 and a 9700pro AIW it runs fine. Check directx (at least 9)

BHH

[Nic]

kkrieger does beat all the other games easily...but it is worth seeing what others did at the same event:
http://www.scene.org/dir.php?dir=%2Fparties%2F2004%2Fbreakpoint04%2F96kgame/

-Nic

ps
Also check here for the groups other work:
http://theproduct.de/index.html

[avih]

Originally posted by Nic
kkrieger does beat all the other games easily...but it is worth seeing what others did at the same event:
http://www.scene.org/dir.php?dir=%2Fparties%2F2004%2Fbreakpoint04%2F96kgame/

-Nic

ps
Also check here for the groups other work:
http://theproduct.de/index.html

very true. i've got most of the 64K fr-xx. 8, 19 and 30 are really cool.

[Atamido]

kkrieger has the most impressive graphics, but I would say that B-Clopd 3D - Adventures in Plattformworld is the most impressive game. Killed all of the dogs before discovering the right mouse button kicks....

[Amnon82]

Here again the Controls out of the manual:

2. controls
-----------

W - forward
S - backward
A - left
D - right
[Space] - Jump
Left mouse - shoot
1-5 - switch weapon

Press M1 - M9 to respawn at the different respawn points (also helps when caught in collision ;)

M1-M9 for respawn. I played this game to the end. ...to continued...

Nice architecture, grafix, textures. K, the KI is stupied, but for this game in this size ok. I hope a final will come out soon.

On the project-page they told of a trilogie... :D