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daehkcid
17th April 2004, 14:45
Kill Bill Vol 1 does not have burned subtitles like in the theatre. I ripped it with DVDShrink and the subs are not automaticly displaying. How do we set it ON by default?

IfOEdit?

Dimmer
17th April 2004, 15:24
If you backed up entire DVD, first subtitle stream is on by default. Otherwise, turn it on somewhere in Pre commands in IfoEdit. You'll have to add hex code for this command manually:
51 00 00 00 C0 00 00 00

daehkcid
17th April 2004, 20:10
I couldn't find the preset thing option.

Dimmer
18th April 2004, 02:41
Originally posted by daehkcid
I couldn't find the preset thing option.Sorry, what do you mean by this?

Snowslide
18th April 2004, 05:03
Yeah, I ran into the same problem, lets here some soloutions.
Dimmer, that was over my head, but I will give it a shot!!

Matthew
18th April 2004, 06:46
Here's a guess at interpreting Dimmer's post, I don't think you need to use hex though.

Open movie IFO (from largest VTS) in IFOEdit
VTS_PGCITI->VTS_PGC_1 (or VTS_PGC_2 or whatever the movie PGC is)
Scroll down to PGC command table.
Right click->Add precommand.
Right click on NOP entry that appears->edit command
select (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr
select stream (whatever just contains needed subs)
set on/off to on.

Dimmer
18th April 2004, 07:44
Originally posted by Matthew
Here's a guess at interpreting Dimmer's post, I don't think you need to use hex though.

Open movie IFO (from largest VTS) in IFOEdit
VTS_PGCITI->VTS_PGC_1 (or VTS_PGC_2 or whatever the movie PGC is)
Scroll down to PGC command table.
Right click->Add precommand.
Right click on NOP entry that appears->edit command
select (SetSTN) Set Subpicture Stream Nr
select stream (whatever just contains needed subs)
set on/off to on.That's exactly what I meant. I think I've been using older version of IfoEdit that didn't allow setting on/off for a subpicture stream, that's why I mentioned the hex code. Thanks for the clarification.

daehkcid
18th April 2004, 14:33
Works nicely! Thanx!

Just a question, what's the difference between substreams being 4:3, wide, letterbox or pan&scan?

Mine has a 1 on letterbox and 0 the rest.

Dimmer
18th April 2004, 17:23
Originally posted by daehkcid
Works nicely! Thanx!

Just a question, what's the difference between substreams being 4:3, wide, letterbox or pan&scan?

Mine has a 1 on letterbox and 0 the rest.Subpicture stream can actually include more than one physical stream so it would be displayed differently on regular and widescreen TVs. It doesn't make much difference for subtitles, so they only have letterbox subpictures. If you view the same disc on computer, i.e. in 16:9 mode, the subtitles will appear in a different place relative to the movie than if you view it on a regular TV. On the other hand, it's not acceptable for menus, which usually have at least two streams (normally 4:3 and pan&scan) so that the menu buttons would appear in the same place on any TV/monitor.

daehkcid
19th April 2004, 00:46
Oh.. nice to know. Thnx.

Just a question, do I have to do Get VTS Sectors after editing the precommands and save?

Dimmer
19th April 2004, 09:11
Originally posted by daehkcid
Just a question, do I have to do Get VTS Sectors after editing the precommands and save?You don't have to, but when in doubt, it won't hurt to do Get VTS Sectors.

Snowslide
19th April 2004, 17:02
great info guys, but how do I know what streams to select?
TIA

daehkcid
19th April 2004, 21:12
Comon, it's STREAM 0!

The first english stream.

Peace.

Dimmer, may i waste some more of your time. What the neccessity of Get VTS Sectors?

Dimmer
20th April 2004, 03:16
Originally posted by daehkcid
What the neccessity of Get VTS Sectors?This only necessary for playing DVD in a standalone. In simplified form, this procedure updates all the addresses and pointers to VOB files within IFO tables in order to reflect their position correctly relative to VIDEO_TS.IFO. The files are always stored on DVD in 2KB sectors in certain order starting with VIDEO_TS.IFO, which points to all other IFOs, which in turn point to all the VOBs. If you change the size of any file by re-encoding, stripping streams or anything else, you have to update all these pointers to reflect the new file location. This is specific to UDF file system used by DVD players. On HDD, software players use Windows file system to find the files, so all this stuff doesn't matter.